Gary andersons proposals

Gary andersons proposals

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andburg

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7,586 posts

175 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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https://the-race.com/formula-1/gary-andersons-fia-...

Article said:
Turbocharger – 5 points
MGU-K – 5 points
MGU-H – 5 points
Energy store – 5 points
Control electronics – 5 points
Exhaust system – 5 points

First ICE or first complete extra PU – 10 points
Second ICE or second complete extra PU – 15 points
Third ICE or third complete extra PU – 20 points
(continuing to rise in five-point increments from there on)
Some i agree some i don't but in particular I do not like the idea of points deductions as a flat rate for component replacement.

5 points to Mercedes is almost, 5 points to HAAS/Alfa/Williams can be the their full season's work and the cost itself would be enough to put them off anyway.

I'd like to see points deductions for failing to complete the season on the allocation rather than time penalties but I'd like it to be a points deduction based on the average points scored by that driver to that point in the season.

so maybe 25-30% of average points for the lower value items and 75-80% of average for the ICE/full power unit

Average points for Hamilton's engine in Brazil was 16, 75-80% of this would have been 12/13 points, would have made the decision much more marginal. Couldn't really go much higher or you'd be looking at a team turning up at the last race and blowing their final engine, qualifying down the order and potentially deciding not to run.




TypeRTim

724 posts

100 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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I like the spirit of what he is going for with most of them.

Track Limits

I agree that the rules should be absolute and the same for every corner of every track. I also agree about instant deletion of lap times in Practice/quali sessions. I think the in race one needs to be a 2 or 3 strike rule, 3 times and black/white flag. Do it again, drive through penalty to be served within 3 laps. Do it again after that 10 second stop-go.

Power Unit

You want to punish both the PU Manufacturer as well as the Team/driver. You need to keep the team from deploying it as a strategy to win races with fresh components like at the end of this last year, so the penalty has to be effective - but with exemptions for force majeure(sp?) eg: when the PU is damaged in an incident not deemed to be the fault of the competitor.

- The Manufacturer should be fined - with the resultant fine going to the FIA sustainability programme or something or other,
- The team docked the constructors points for the result of the car with the new PU component
- The driver given a 10 place grid penalty which rises by 2 places with each occurence of that same part being replaced

The Red flag / tyre change rules -

I think that any work done to the cars under red flag, the car should be taken out of the train in the pit lane and returned to its garage or pit box. Essentially, parc ferme conditions apply to the pit lane itself.
Any car taken to the pit box will have to rejoin the train of cars at the end of the ones currently still in pit lane, but in the order that they were in classification (so if the second placed car was worked on, it would join the queue at the back, but in front of the car in fourth if they had work done etc.)

UNLESS, there was genuine and demonstrable safety concerns with the tyres fitted at the point of the red flag that would make restarting the race unsafe. In that case, as GA suggested - same compound tyres would have to be fitted as those that were taken off and this could be done in the pit lane as happens currently.

Any race where there is a heavy incident within the last 10 laps is either
- immediately red flagged, to be restarted once the incident is clear with either a standing start or rolling start (not sure which i prefer tbh)
- Deploy the safety car but has the lap count frozen when there are 3 laps officially remaining until the 'safety car in this lap' message is broadcast - to allow for a 'racing finish' with all lapped cars to join the lead lap etc.

I like his idea of allowing the top 10 to immediately form up behind the safety car with the lapped cars dropping back immediately. But it seems a bit unfair on the 11th place guy if they are on the gearbox of 10th before the SC and then suddenly has 4 backmarkers to negotiate!

robsco

7,871 posts

182 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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He should just stick to the darts.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

267 months

Thursday 27th January 2022
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robsco said:
He should just stick to the darts.
rofl

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HardtopManual

2,520 posts

172 months

Friday 28th January 2022
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If you want to punish via the points system (and I don't), it would make sense to reduce the number of points available at the event where the new components were used. Perhaps the points awarded to the driver could be reduced by 20% for each new component. So, a win with a new ICE and turbo would give the driver (and constructor) 25 * 0.6 = 15 points. The resulting total could be rounded up, so as not to impact the smaller teams who might replace a few components, then scrape a 10th place. You could go even further and distribute the lost points to other points scorers - either from 1st place down, or 10th place up.

This kind of approach would equalise the impact up and down the grid.