Brakes Squeaking - Best Course Of Action ?

Brakes Squeaking - Best Course Of Action ?

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MakaveliX

Original Poster:

662 posts

44 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Got an '08 Yaris MK2 which has recently developed an annoying squeak when at low speeds whilst braking to a stop.
I did use a load of brake cleaner which has definitely made them less dirty and much less squeaky but the noise persists somewhat.

The pads on both sides look pretty thick ( just under 1CM in thickness ) so I'm confused as to what's causing the squeak. The brakes are sharp and work very well however.

Here's some photos, what do you guys suggest ?




thatdude

2,660 posts

142 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Probably just needs the calipers cleaning up, all the fixtures and fixing etc with some brake paste. It's not really possible to tell anything from those pictures...you have good pad material, discs look ok.


mickyh7

2,347 posts

101 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Brake Paste!
What's that then?

Dave.

7,675 posts

268 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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mickyh7 said:
Brake Paste!
What's that then?
Another name for brake lube, brake grease, anti-squeal....

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=brake+paste

Tommo87

5,216 posts

128 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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I assume he means copper grease?

My guess is that some anti squeal shims have been missed off the last figment.

Sometimes a four or five good hard stops (obviously when safe to do so) can clear the pads and disks.

Otherwise, remove them lightly score the pad surface with some emery cloth in a well ventilated area and put some copper grease on the backs.


MakaveliX

Original Poster:

662 posts

44 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Thanks for the info guys.
I'm not experienced enough to be taking my brakes apart.

I cleaned them again yesterday, if the squeaking comes back again I'll just get the pads and discs replaced

Strange how it only happens at slow speeds

Krikkit

27,440 posts

196 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Unlikely you need new brake materials, just a good clean and a grease of the sliders will usually do it. Worst case I'd take a set of new brake pads which have shims on the back as they always help. Copper grease isn't needed if the calipers are clean and not binding up with corrosion.

Chris32345

2,135 posts

77 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Krikkit said:
Unlikely you need new brake materials, just a good clean and a grease of the sliders will usually do it. Worst case I'd take a set of new brake pads which have shims on the back as they always help. Copper grease isn't needed if the calipers are clean and not binding up with corrosion.
Copper grease isn't needed full stop but some lube is needed on even the best condition calipers

Smint

2,369 posts

50 months

Friday 21st January 2022
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You don't need new parts.
Pads need to come out, all parts need cleaning, any anti rattle shims need to be pinged off and cleaned up as well as the caliper where they sit, then a gentle lubing with the correct brake grease on the sliders and also on the back of the pads and a tiny wipe on the edges of the back plates will do the trick.

Purely out of interest if you removed the pads you would probably see the exact spot the squeal is coming from, an edge and/or the back of the back plate of one of the pads will be shiny, that's where the pad is vibrating gently at a high frequency which is the squeal you can hear.

I know that many garages squirt brake cleaner about in the general direction of the calipers and call that £brake £servicing, it isn't, if anything the stuff dries any lube that a real mechanic used last time the brakes were properly serviced.

MakaveliX

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662 posts

44 months

Saturday 22nd January 2022
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Smint said:
You don't need new parts.
I know that many garages squirt brake cleaner about in the general direction of the calipers and call that £brake £servicing, it isn't, if anything the stuff dries any lube that a real mechanic used last time the brakes were properly serviced.
Yeah that sounds right, I did think to myself that brake cleaner isn't a great idea as it could dry out any lubricant inside the brakes.

I got the pads and discs changed for peace of mind, bedded them in OK by doing a few stops from 50mph to 20mph etc