Vanguard Life Strategy

Vanguard Life Strategy

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Candellara

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1,889 posts

195 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Vanguard Life Strategy funds have taken a bit of a beating in the last few days.

Not having looked into too deeply, what's been the root of the drop?

Gooose

1,512 posts

92 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Doesn’t look good on my stocks widget


Simpo Two

88,654 posts

278 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Blimey, a win to the FTSE for a change.

bitchstewie

57,954 posts

223 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Everything is down hehe

Honestly simple as that but global equity indexes have dipped post Xmas and so have global bond indexes so depending which LifeStrategy product you're talking about the hit will depend on the ratio of equities to bonds.

Candellara

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1,889 posts

195 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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bhstewie said:
Everything is down hehe

Honestly simple as that but global equity indexes have dipped post Xmas and so have global bond indexes so depending which LifeStrategy product you're talking about the hit will depend on the ratio of equities to bonds.
Yep, only took a quick look this morning and thought crikey that's dipped. Got a mixture of 40/60 & 80 accumulation. Haven't looked to see which specific funds are particularly down.




Edited by Candellara on Friday 7th January 10:11

Dal3D

1,235 posts

164 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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And there was me going to open a Vanguard LS ISA this morning!

Will I get more "units" and value as it's low now?

Hippea

2,431 posts

82 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Dal3D said:
And there was me going to open a Vanguard LS ISA this morning!

Will I get more "units" and value as it's low now?
I was thinking of sticking some more in now. Think it’s going to dip even more?

I know, I know…..don’t try and time the market

Candellara

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1,889 posts

195 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Yep, probably a good time to buy some more :-)

46and2

803 posts

46 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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I started a LS 100% equities accumulation fund after the dip at the end of Nov.

Did I get in at the top? laugh

egor110

17,472 posts

216 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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If you don't need the money just carry on drip feeding monthly or take the opportunity to buy more at a cheaper rate.

chip*

1,324 posts

241 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Candellara said:
Vanguard Life Strategy funds have taken a bit of a beating in the last few days.
If you think the LS funds are taking a beating (The last week performance across the entire LS funds is around 1.3% down), imagine how you feel if your investment fund had a concentrated holding in Netflix...



simong800

3,203 posts

120 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Overpriced tech/high PE ratio stocks have sold off due to fed tapering and anticipated interest rates rising, simple as that really.

The index is dominated by US tech. Global funds that have done alright so far this year are value funds/ones that don't have a load of tech in the top holdings.

I'd keep calm and carry on assuming you are a long term investor rather than trader - it's out of your control and also something you are unlikely to look back on in 20 years time and see as a pivotal moment (more likely one of many MANY blips along the way).

simong800

3,203 posts

120 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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chip* said:
If you think the LS funds are taking a beating (The last week performance across the entire LS funds is around 1.3% down), imagine how you feel if your investment fund had a concentrated holding in Netflix...


11% down in a month is good going compared to some of the corrections that have been taking place. Docusign missed earnings and dropped over 40% in A DAY recently. There has been a big correction playing out, but so far mainly limited to uber high PE ratio growth stocks. It's gone a bit under the radar, but many "covid winners" from 2020 have dropped 20 to 90% since their peaks.

They form a small part of the market to the extent it hasn't been felt in indexes, but there are certain funds that have had a horrific past 6 months, and some that have lost 8-10% in 2 days (which I appreciate isn't a massive drop but for a fund rather than a single stock it's pretty sharp).

DonkeyApple

61,675 posts

182 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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FED casually mentioned something about raising interest rates so all the tech stuff what itself a bit as most of their customers live seconds away from credit default. But look fabulous.

Candellara

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1,889 posts

195 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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chip* said:
If you think the LS funds are taking a beating (The last week performance across the entire LS funds is around 1.3% down), imagine how you feel if your investment fund had a concentrated holding in Netflix...


Ouch

Candellara

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1,889 posts

195 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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si800 said:
Overpriced tech/high PE ratio stocks have sold off due to fed tapering and anticipated interest rates rising, simple as that really.

The index is dominated by US tech. Global funds that have done alright so far this year are value funds/ones that don't have a load of tech in the top holdings.

I'd keep calm and carry on assuming you are a long term investor rather than trader - it's out of your control and also something you are unlikely to look back on in 20 years time and see as a pivotal moment (more likely one of many MANY blips along the way).
I've a reasonable amount invested - so looks like quite a drop but yep, keep calm & carry on :-)

bitchstewie

57,954 posts

223 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Baillie Gifford US Growth Trust is down 13% over a month yikes

simong800

3,203 posts

120 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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bhstewie said:
Baillie Gifford US Growth Trust is down 13% over a month yikes
So is Edinburgh Worldwide, whilst Scottish Mortgage Trust is down 15% in a month.

There will be a load of investors who piled into Baillie Gifford funds/trusts BECAUSE they did well in 2020 who are nursing some massive paper losses....assuming they've not already sold.

EWI/SMT/BG USA are along with ARKK the absolute far right on the value to growth scale, so a good barometer of what "uber growth" can look like in a less favourable macro environment.

500swk

144 posts

76 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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si800 said:
So is Edinburgh Worldwide, whilst Scottish Mortgage Trust is down 15% in a month.

There will be a load of investors who piled into Baillie Gifford funds/trusts BECAUSE they did well in 2020 who are nursing some massive paper losses....assuming they've not already sold.

EWI/SMT/BG USA are along with ARKK the absolute far right on the value to growth scale, so a good barometer of what "uber growth" can look like in a less favourable macro environment.
almost every baillie gifford fund seems to have collapsed

putonghua73

615 posts

141 months

Friday 7th January 2022
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Candellara said:
Vanguard Life Strategy funds have taken a bit of a beating in the last few days.

Not having looked into too deeply, what's been the root of the drop?
What do you define as a "beating"? Whenever I read headlines like "Stocks crash!", and the market has a c1.5% wobble, I'm like, "bh, please!".