Defending on old tyres
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Bo_apex said:
Perez did a decent job keeping Hamilton behind on old tyres in Abu Dhabi.
Why did we not see similar defence from Hamilton against Max on the last lap ?
IIRC Perez was on old softs, what might the delta be ?
Old hard tyres vs new softs, is a very different proposition from old softs v new hards. Why did we not see similar defence from Hamilton against Max on the last lap ?
IIRC Perez was on old softs, what might the delta be ?
The first scenario was at least four or five seconds a lap, as opposed to one or two for the Lewis/Perez battle.
Perez did a great job in the slow bits, of being very slow indeed, and let MV catch up an 8 second gap to be almost on the DRS.
Perez’ efforts meant that, when the VSC came out, Max had room to stop but Lewis didn’t.
Bo_apex said:
Perez did a decent job keeping Hamilton behind on old tyres in Abu Dhabi.
Why did we not see similar defence from Hamilton against Max on the last lap ?
IIRC Perez was on old softs, what might the delta be ?
Hamilton could not afford to crash in either instance, also there is a conspiracy theory that Perez was underfueled, hence the late retirement.Why did we not see similar defence from Hamilton against Max on the last lap ?
IIRC Perez was on old softs, what might the delta be ?
Sandpit Steve said:
Bo_apex said:
Perez did a decent job keeping Hamilton behind on old tyres in Abu Dhabi.
Why did we not see similar defence from Hamilton against Max on the last lap ?
IIRC Perez was on old softs, what might the delta be ?
Old hard tyres vs new softs, is a very different proposition from old softs v new hards. Why did we not see similar defence from Hamilton against Max on the last lap ?
IIRC Perez was on old softs, what might the delta be ?
The first scenario was at least four or five seconds a lap, as opposed to one or two for the Lewis/Perez battle.
Perez did a great job in the slow bits, of being very slow indeed, and let MV catch up an 8 second gap to be almost on the DRS.
Perez’ efforts meant that, when the VSC came out, Max had room to stop but Lewis didn’t.
Bo_apex said:
Why did we not see similar defence from Hamilton against Max on the last lap ?
41 lap old hards vs. brand new softsBo_apex said:
IIRC Perez was on old softs, what might the delta be ?
Depends on how many laps they were both on. Obviously very worn softs can be slower than mediums and hards depending- otherwise nobody would ever pit! ...or maybe Perez is just a much better driver than Hamilton
Lets be clear, with the way it played out, the result of the final lap restart was a forgone conclusion- and Hamilton knew this before the safety car peeled into the pits.
I believe that Perez was driving to a delta that kept his tyres in very good shape for the few laps they were required to defend against LH. Pere would then stop for a new set.
Lewis had to avoid tangling, press and conserve the tyres at the same time. Lewis did that remarkably well...to the point that Max could not match him after pitting.
It took Masi to create the overtaking opportunity that was inevitable given the compounds and freshness of the tyres involved on the last lap.
Villeneuve Jarama 1981, watch that, you will never ever see a better example of a driver defending for an entire race pretty much.
Alonso and Schuey at Imola was fabulous.
Senna and Mansell in 92 was too, but Senna was very dirty that day and nearly caused countless accidents for nige.
Alonso and Schuey at Imola was fabulous.
Senna and Mansell in 92 was too, but Senna was very dirty that day and nearly caused countless accidents for nige.
LukeBrown66 said:
Villeneuve Jarama 1981, watch that, you will never ever see a better example of a driver defending for an entire race pretty much.
Alonso and Schuey at Imola was fabulous.
Senna and Mansell in 92 was too, but Senna was very dirty that day and nearly caused countless accidents for nige.
Tyres were not made of cheese then, something Herr Schumacher discovered when he made his return to F1Alonso and Schuey at Imola was fabulous.
Senna and Mansell in 92 was too, but Senna was very dirty that day and nearly caused countless accidents for nige.
HustleRussell said:
Bo_apex said:
Why did we not see similar defence from Hamilton against Max on the last lap ?
41 lap old hards vs. brand new softsBo_apex said:
IIRC Perez was on old softs, what might the delta be ?
Depends on how many laps they were both on. Obviously very worn softs can be slower than mediums and hards depending- otherwise nobody would ever pit! ...or maybe Perez is just a much better driver than Hamilton
Lets be clear, with the way it played out, the result of the final lap restart was a forgone conclusion- and Hamilton knew this before the safety car peeled into the pits.
Bo_apex said:
I reckon if F1 was single compound Lewis could have kept Max behind for the last lap.
The formula has been most famous for its hybrid engines, but I reckon Lewis' ability to keep the Pirellis alive while others couldn't has made the difference in loads of races. It might be his gift ala Vettel with the blown diffuser.glazbagun said:
Bo_apex said:
I reckon if F1 was single compound Lewis could have kept Max behind for the last lap.
The formula has been most famous for its hybrid engines, but I reckon Lewis' ability to keep the Pirellis alive while others couldn't has made the difference in loads of races. It might be his gift ala Vettel with the blown diffuser.geeks said:
glazbagun said:
Bo_apex said:
I reckon if F1 was single compound Lewis could have kept Max behind for the last lap.
The formula has been most famous for its hybrid engines, but I reckon Lewis' ability to keep the Pirellis alive while others couldn't has made the difference in loads of races. It might be his gift ala Vettel with the blown diffuser.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff