992 Gts Targa vs Cabriolet

[George1980]

Hi all
I have an order in for Gts Targa, however I'm having a problem deciding which to go for as the reason I went for a Targa is because its chassis somehow more rigid than the 991.2 Coupe which is hell of an achievement.
This is because It'll be used daily all year round so I didn't want the chassis flex I used to have in my last Porsche (991.2 Turbo s Cab) which was notable when the roof was closed.
I'm currently in another brand of car which is a carbon chassis and have zero scuttle movement but I want a Porsche again as they are just good at everything and just work imo.
The other slight problem is the Targa Gts doesn't have the same -10mm suspension the rest of the range have which is a shame as its not even an option but I'll sort that issue later on if needed.
So Im basically debating do I go for a less rigid Cab which has the -10mm suspension or Targa and sort the suspension after.
I'm sure the 992 cab will be better that the 991.2 but better rigidity equals less squeaks and rattles in most cases.
I was wondering if anyone has driven both the 992 cab and targa with roofs open/closed that can give any feedback??

Basic Spec of the Car is as follows.
GT Silver
Burmister
PDCC
RWS
GTS interior
18 way seats
Lift
PCCB

[swanseaboydan]

Never owned either but have driven the targa - I’m not a balls out sports driver so I wouldn’t notice the handling differences but if you love convertibles then I found that the targa doesn’t feel like a real open top car. The 911 can folds flat so you have nothing behind you with the roof down.
Sounds to me like the handling is more important to you though so maybe go for the stiffer car with less roll. Sounds like a top spec though

[APOLO1]

Have done 12k miles in 992C2S Cab, and same in Coupe fantastic cars. In the Cab there is a bit of Chassis Flex with roof up or down its 31% less rigid than the 992 coupe, tbf though you soon forget about it after a short time. Even though the Cab is less rigid than the Coupe it had zero like nothing in the way of rattle noise etc, even on track.

The 992 Targa 4GTS with the roof up or down has what i would say feels like zero chassis Flex in this area, it feels about the same as what a 992 C2S coupe is when driven back to back at the Experience centre short track. When the 992 Targa 4S was launched the marketing stuff said that has more chassis rigidity than what the outgoing 991 Coupe variant had.

Edited by APOLO1 on Saturday 8th January 14:02

[Cheib]

You sound like you’re very interested in how the car drives OP. Personally think a 2wd Coupe would be a night and day better drive than a 4wd Targa (there’s a reason why it doesn’t have the same suspension) ….not sure if it’s been improved but I think with the 991.2 Targa there was a lot of buffeting.

[DFog]

I had the same debate and went for the Cab due in March.

I based my decision on the lighter 2wd cab (100kg) having the Turbo S suspension and more drop top driving experience.

Owned both 2wd and 4wd 911s. Prefer 2wd in lower power c2
but I’m looking forward to see what 470bhp is like driving the rear wheels only.

If it was my main car I would think harder about the Targa.

[Grantstown]

I’m not sure if the targa will be any more rigid than the cab, as there’s still not structural B pillar, just a load of weight on top to raise the centre of gravity. Maybe I’m missing something here?

[SFO]

I am utterly amazed a 992 Targa has better chassis rigidity than a 992 Coupe

[Stanley Rous]

If you have an order in, you could get your date booked at the PEC, pick the brains of the instructors there and drive a selection. They are in and out of these all day (though don’t recall seeing a Targa GTS when I was there recently). The instructor I had wasn’t overly positive about Targas but I was too busy concentrating on what I was doing to press any further.

[APOLO1]

This below from a recent Mag road test review, I would not go so far as to say the 992 Targa 4 GTS feels more rigid than say the same in a Coupe. But with the roof up or down I could not feel any difference in this area around the short circuit at PEC between the Targa and the Coupe, and I drove it as hard as i would a GT car.
"
The first thing nerds always want to talk about with these: “Was there a sacrifice in rigidity when the roof was removed?” Thomas Krickelberg, whose job title at Porsche is Director, Model Line 911, was prepared for this question on a party-line with a bunch of test pilots last week. Effectively, no. The main difference between the coupe (hardtop), cabriolet (convertible), and Targa (removable roof center-section), “is in the thickness in sheet metal in the rocker areas.”That means the Targa’s reinforced along the bottom to compensate for any loss of rigidity inherent with lopping the roof off of the car. From a standpoint of what I could feel on the road, yeah, no, it certainly didn’t turn the 911 into a wet noodle. I couldn’t detect any absence of rigidity in both peaceful and aggressive city driving."

Edited by APOLO1 on Saturday 8th January 15:34

[911_TGA]

Stanley Rous said:

If you have an order in, you could get your date booked at the PEC, pick the brains of the instructors there and drive a selection. They are in and out of these all day (though don’t recall seeing a Targa GTS when I was there recently). The instructor I had wasn’t overly positive about Targas but I was too busy concentrating on what I was doing to press any further.

They have Targas at the PEC. I had a go in the Targa 4S. Drove it on track and on the roads mainly with the top down. With the deflector deployed i honestly had zero issues driving at 60 down the country roads. If youre primarily getting the car with the idea of hitting the track fairly often go with a coupe. If youre not bothered about losing the lines of the coupe, limited rear view, and want the best top down experience go with the cab. If you want a bit of both, most aesthetically pleasing (IMO) and can put up with having to be stationary to put the roof up/down get the Targa.

[George1980]

Thank you all
Really appreciate the feedback , I feel better leaving the order as the Targa Gts now !
I've spoken to a couple of aftermarket companies regarding the Bilstien Evo Se coil overs which Porsche helped develop.
I'm told they are amazing so if I am really struggling with the standard suspension ( Which I now feel confident about) then I can make it "apparently" a cross between a GTS and a GT3 ride as this set up has a broad width of adjustability in the electronic valves and works with the existing Pasm switching with or without PDCC.
Basically a plug n play.
I never thought about the invite to Silverstone so that will help if they have a Gts Targa !

[resigner]

If you want a drivers car, why do you want a 4 and not a 2?

I've driven convertibles for over 20 years, so I am compeltely biased, and have a C2GTS Cab on order, with RWS and PDDC, manual gearbox.

I drove a C2S Cab for 30 minutes, wonderful thing, GTS will be slightly more focused.

When buying my 997 I tried both 2 and 4 versions and the 4 is a very different car, felt heavier and just nowhere near as fun as a 2. Depends what you want.....

Basically, they are all 911's and any one of them is a truly exceptional drivers car.

Have you driven any of them?

[anonymous-user]

Nothing beats a McLaren in convertible form and either will feel like a step back after being spoilt with the zero flex of a carbon tub.
Cant believe other manufacturers are not using this technology but appreciate its not cheap