Three months today…
Discussion
…is the first race of 2022!
Any bets as to how many of the ‘I’m out’ brigade will stay out?
Can’t wait for another season. Whoever you support I hope you are excited too.
Mercedes have got over losing the WDC, and I’m 100% certain Lewis will be back, and hungry for that 8th WDC. They also have George in the team, and to see how they work together will be fascinating.
At Red Bull, Max will be driving the ‘1’ fast and hard and will continue to divide opinion like he did this year. Checo will hopefully play a far bigger role than at some races this year.
Ferrari will hopefully continue to be strong. Sainz’ year in 2021, but Leclerc will surely be looking to beat him in 2022.
McLaren need to work even harder. A great season for Lando, but Daniel needs to get the performance out of the car too. Hoping Lando gets at least one win.
As for the others, I’ll continue to root for Gasly - he is a brilliant racer and deserves more than he is getting.
Fabulous to see Alonso on the podium again this year - genuine happiness from him, and a repeat would be welcome.
Seb will continue to be one of the nicest people in F1. That dammed pointy finger he used to have is long gone, and he’s all the better for it. Not sure when their huge new factory comes on stream, but it has to start paying back or Lance’s dad will not be happy.
As for the others, difficult to see Haas and Williams doing anything other than being at the back of the grid and the bottom of the race classifications. Ditto Alfa Romeo.
Bring it on….
Any bets as to how many of the ‘I’m out’ brigade will stay out?
Can’t wait for another season. Whoever you support I hope you are excited too.
Mercedes have got over losing the WDC, and I’m 100% certain Lewis will be back, and hungry for that 8th WDC. They also have George in the team, and to see how they work together will be fascinating.
At Red Bull, Max will be driving the ‘1’ fast and hard and will continue to divide opinion like he did this year. Checo will hopefully play a far bigger role than at some races this year.
Ferrari will hopefully continue to be strong. Sainz’ year in 2021, but Leclerc will surely be looking to beat him in 2022.
McLaren need to work even harder. A great season for Lando, but Daniel needs to get the performance out of the car too. Hoping Lando gets at least one win.
As for the others, I’ll continue to root for Gasly - he is a brilliant racer and deserves more than he is getting.
Fabulous to see Alonso on the podium again this year - genuine happiness from him, and a repeat would be welcome.
Seb will continue to be one of the nicest people in F1. That dammed pointy finger he used to have is long gone, and he’s all the better for it. Not sure when their huge new factory comes on stream, but it has to start paying back or Lance’s dad will not be happy.
As for the others, difficult to see Haas and Williams doing anything other than being at the back of the grid and the bottom of the race classifications. Ditto Alfa Romeo.
Bring it on….
595Heaven said:
PhilAsia said:
595Heaven said:
Mercedes have got over losing the WDC.
Have they? How bizarre...PhilAsia said:
595Heaven said:
Mercedes have got over losing the WDC.
Have they? How bizarre...The debacle in the last race of the 2021 season will hang over F1 for a long, long time.
It appeared like a huge u-turn from Mercedes very quickly. I assumed some deal had been done.
However, saying you are not going to challenge the title result does not mean they won’t pursue a claim for damages for breach of contract. You’d imagine there are a web of interlocking agreements and that Mercedes’ lawyers would find a number of arguable breaches in.
What’s the “loss” arising from not winning an unprecedented 8th driver’s crown. Lots, I’d argue.
Sorry if O/T and covered elsewhere.
However, saying you are not going to challenge the title result does not mean they won’t pursue a claim for damages for breach of contract. You’d imagine there are a web of interlocking agreements and that Mercedes’ lawyers would find a number of arguable breaches in.
What’s the “loss” arising from not winning an unprecedented 8th driver’s crown. Lots, I’d argue.
Sorry if O/T and covered elsewhere.
595Heaven said:
…is the first race of 2022!
Any bets as to how many of the ‘I’m out’ brigade will stay out?
Can’t wait for another season. Whoever you support I hope you are excited too.
Mercedes have got over losing the WDC, and I’m 100% certain Lewis will be back, and hungry for that 8th WDC. They also have George in the team, and to see how they work together will be fascinating.
At Red Bull, Max will be driving the ‘1’ fast and hard and will continue to divide opinion like he did this year. Checo will hopefully play a far bigger role than at some races this year.
Ferrari will hopefully continue to be strong. Sainz’ year in 2021, but Leclerc will surely be looking to beat him in 2022.
McLaren need to work even harder. A great season for Lando, but Daniel needs to get the performance out of the car too. Hoping Lando gets at least one win.
As for the others, I’ll continue to root for Gasly - he is a brilliant racer and deserves more than he is getting.
Fabulous to see Alonso on the podium again this year - genuine happiness from him, and a repeat would be welcome.
Seb will continue to be one of the nicest people in F1. That dammed pointy finger he used to have is long gone, and he’s all the better for it. Not sure when their huge new factory comes on stream, but it has to start paying back or Lance’s dad will not be happy.
As for the others, difficult to see Haas and Williams doing anything other than being at the back of the grid and the bottom of the race classifications. Ditto Alfa Romeo.
Bring it on….
I am with you.Any bets as to how many of the ‘I’m out’ brigade will stay out?
Can’t wait for another season. Whoever you support I hope you are excited too.
Mercedes have got over losing the WDC, and I’m 100% certain Lewis will be back, and hungry for that 8th WDC. They also have George in the team, and to see how they work together will be fascinating.
At Red Bull, Max will be driving the ‘1’ fast and hard and will continue to divide opinion like he did this year. Checo will hopefully play a far bigger role than at some races this year.
Ferrari will hopefully continue to be strong. Sainz’ year in 2021, but Leclerc will surely be looking to beat him in 2022.
McLaren need to work even harder. A great season for Lando, but Daniel needs to get the performance out of the car too. Hoping Lando gets at least one win.
As for the others, I’ll continue to root for Gasly - he is a brilliant racer and deserves more than he is getting.
Fabulous to see Alonso on the podium again this year - genuine happiness from him, and a repeat would be welcome.
Seb will continue to be one of the nicest people in F1. That dammed pointy finger he used to have is long gone, and he’s all the better for it. Not sure when their huge new factory comes on stream, but it has to start paying back or Lance’s dad will not be happy.
As for the others, difficult to see Haas and Williams doing anything other than being at the back of the grid and the bottom of the race classifications. Ditto Alfa Romeo.
Bring it on….
There are plenty of other threads for the non enthusiastic posters.
After a long time of having no interest in F1 after being an avid fan, Drive to Survive got me looking into a couple of races of the covid season, but watched in total excitement for every race this season.
How anyone thinks the snoozefest of Mercedes ridiculously dominating were better times than this season is beyond me.
As you say, so many great young drivers driving out of their skin making the cars look much better than they are, senior ex champ drivers enjoying the tustles midfield and the most exciting season of leadership constantly changing hands right down to the last lap.
Just brilliant.
I too cannot wait for next season and this seasons drive to survive.
Would be nice if only neutral fans posted in here; let's not get it bogged down with opinions that are in the multiple other threads.
Same as 2021. Rules and penalty points will not be applied on Verstapen like other drivers (great interview by Montoya about it) RedBull will still be influencing stewards decisions and they will call that "let them race".
Ferrari will be nowhere.
Mercedes (especially Hamilton) will be banned for highlighting gay rights and women's rights as it doesn't fit well with the new FIA president. They will once more do anything not to upset the old TV pundits and old f1 drivers to make sure he doesn't get 1 more title than Schumacher.
Riccardo will be nowhere like the McLaren.
Renault at the back of the grid with Williams and Haas.
Ferrari will be nowhere.
Mercedes (especially Hamilton) will be banned for highlighting gay rights and women's rights as it doesn't fit well with the new FIA president. They will once more do anything not to upset the old TV pundits and old f1 drivers to make sure he doesn't get 1 more title than Schumacher.
Riccardo will be nowhere like the McLaren.
Renault at the back of the grid with Williams and Haas.
PhilAsia said:
Have they? How bizarre...
To be fair $150m is quite a nice consolation prize.I predict the Abu Dhabi thread will still be going strong by Monza 2022 with the same repeated arguments.
Lewis may even have wrapped up the 2022 championship by then!
EDIT: Was $150m, may well be even more now
Edited by cgt2 on Monday 20th December 09:53
I am looking forward to the 2022 season. Just as I did the 2021 season. Just as I have every season I can remember since the early 1960s.
There have been good seasons and bad seasons along the way. Highlights will be personal to everyone. 2021 had highs and lows, but was then blemished at the point when a sport, not manipulated spectacle, was under the highest amount of scrutiny by diehard fans and curious newcomers - for those that love sports and sporting achievement it will live on as a criminally low point in F1 history.
Posting "Mercedes have got over losing the WDC" was an absurd assumption and vapidly undermines all the dedication to succeed of any/all (what is it these days, FIA?) MB staff.
The 2022 season may or may not be a new high or a continued decline. I will wait and see.
There have been good seasons and bad seasons along the way. Highlights will be personal to everyone. 2021 had highs and lows, but was then blemished at the point when a sport, not manipulated spectacle, was under the highest amount of scrutiny by diehard fans and curious newcomers - for those that love sports and sporting achievement it will live on as a criminally low point in F1 history.
Posting "Mercedes have got over losing the WDC" was an absurd assumption and vapidly undermines all the dedication to succeed of any/all (what is it these days, FIA?) MB staff.
The 2022 season may or may not be a new high or a continued decline. I will wait and see.
595Heaven said:
I think we have a few threads covering 2021 Eric.
Is there anything you look forward to for next season?
The rancour and the discord caused by the way the 2021 season ended Is there anything you look forward to for next season?
2022 will not be all sweetness and light - which should make for some interesting races.I've been looking forward to these new cars since they were first announced.
I'm also wondering what the FIA will do to screw it all up next year.
PhilAsia- there are so many current threads discussing the 2021 championship.
I am keen for the season to start every year and I follow from car releases, pre-season testing and throughout- but I particularly love a big regs change and shake up. Even more the upcoming regs change for next season because I have faith in how they were conceived and who is behind them.
There has been a high level of carry-over on the cars for the past three seasons so competitive form between teams has been a little fixed. This has taken out a little of the interest in the pre-season for me. However teams have now spent those years working towards 2022, so once again leaps in form and surprises are possible. Also the cars should look quite dramatically different which is fun.
I am concerned that the new regulations will string out the grid compared to the historically close 2021 grid, and the effect that may have on all of the sport's newfound fans. I was excited for the start of the 2014 season but it was immediately apparent that the significant regulations change had drastically altered the late-V8 era competitive picture for the worse, whilst also managing to produce cars which were pretty horrible to look at.
Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised, the field spread won't be too great and no one team will steal a march. It'd also be nice to have no threadbare sport in the grid, e.g. the usual gap between the front-runners and the midfield, the gap between the midfield and the no-hopers.
I would love it if they got it right with the regulations, and that there is some room for innovation and differentiation, but the grid isn't strung out.
I am keen for the season to start every year and I follow from car releases, pre-season testing and throughout- but I particularly love a big regs change and shake up. Even more the upcoming regs change for next season because I have faith in how they were conceived and who is behind them.
There has been a high level of carry-over on the cars for the past three seasons so competitive form between teams has been a little fixed. This has taken out a little of the interest in the pre-season for me. However teams have now spent those years working towards 2022, so once again leaps in form and surprises are possible. Also the cars should look quite dramatically different which is fun.
I am concerned that the new regulations will string out the grid compared to the historically close 2021 grid, and the effect that may have on all of the sport's newfound fans. I was excited for the start of the 2014 season but it was immediately apparent that the significant regulations change had drastically altered the late-V8 era competitive picture for the worse, whilst also managing to produce cars which were pretty horrible to look at.
Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised, the field spread won't be too great and no one team will steal a march. It'd also be nice to have no threadbare sport in the grid, e.g. the usual gap between the front-runners and the midfield, the gap between the midfield and the no-hopers.
I would love it if they got it right with the regulations, and that there is some room for innovation and differentiation, but the grid isn't strung out.
Edited by HustleRussell on Monday 20th December 11:21
I’m really interested to see how the new cars look out on track and how they race. I really dislike the looks and proportions of the outgoing gen cars so I’m hoping the new ones will at least look the part.
The uncertainty the new regs generate will make the anticipation of the new season interesting, you never know, we might get a 2009 style upset!
I’m less keen on the large calendar, I believe in quality over quantity and I think fewer races make each one that bit more important.
I hope we have heard the last of the team to race director messages, they haven’t cast anyone in a good light. I’d also be happy to hear less radio in general as it tends to consist mostly of whinging. I suspect I might be disappointed on that front.
The uncertainty the new regs generate will make the anticipation of the new season interesting, you never know, we might get a 2009 style upset!
I’m less keen on the large calendar, I believe in quality over quantity and I think fewer races make each one that bit more important.
I hope we have heard the last of the team to race director messages, they haven’t cast anyone in a good light. I’d also be happy to hear less radio in general as it tends to consist mostly of whinging. I suspect I might be disappointed on that front.
PhilAsia said:
Posting "Mercedes have got over losing the WDC" was an absurd assumption and vapidly undermines all the dedication to succeed of any/all (what is it these days, FIA?) MB staff.
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Point taken but a member of staff I know is VERY satisfied with the hefty WCC win bonus that every member of the team gets paid. The disappointment over not achieving the double was there for a day or two but they seem to have moved on now - unlike Pistonheads!.
Ferrari will be a dark horse to watch next year for me. Huge financial resources, two fantastic drivers and they have been working on 2022 car for two years without the pressure of a championship fight.
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