Could be a good year for George !

Could be a good year for George !

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Dunit

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643 posts

211 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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With the presumption that Mercedes come up with a competitive car, Next year could be a great season for our George.
He will be far harder competition for both Lewis and Max ! Lewis will be taking no prisoners with Max if he tries some off the moves he carried out this year with no championship to worry about early on and can see a few DNFs for them both.
And George could be there to pick up the results.
Also Alonso, Norris and the Ferrari boys could well come into play and have a say in the matter.
This year could be Max,s one and only championship?

esuuv

1,349 posts

211 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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Max is only 24 on current form and his career to date you have to say it's unlikely it'll be his only championship.

Next year will be interesting though - have read some articles that seem to suggest Red Bull gave the end of the season everything - did Mercedes give as much? what does the 22 development look like for either of them?

As with any regulation change there is always an element of "luck" in interpreting the new rules (see Brawn / Honda) - also Red Bull are taking the engine construction in house - who knows how much of a change that will be?

George will have a lot of learning to do - am sure he'll be fast but there's a big difference between one off performances and producing it week after week - I think they said last night there are 10 races in 13 weeks at one point next year - that's a lot.

Superhoop

4,700 posts

199 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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esuuv said:
As with any regulation change there is always an element of "luck" in interpreting the new rules (see Brawn / Honda) - also Red Bull are taking the engine construction in house - who knows how much of a change that will be?
I think this is the most important bit.. There is an assumption that it will be MB vs RB again next year, but with very different regulations coming in to play, just like the Brawn year.. There could be one team comes out of the blue with a design that just blows away everyone...

sparta6

3,734 posts

106 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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Superhoop said:
esuuv said:
As with any regulation change there is always an element of "luck" in interpreting the new rules (see Brawn / Honda) - also Red Bull are taking the engine construction in house - who knows how much of a change that will be?
I think this is the most important bit.. There is an assumption that it will be MB vs RB again next year, but with very different regulations coming in to play, just like the Brawn year.. There could be one team comes out of the blue with a design that just blows away everyone...
Alpine or Ferrari may surprise everyone.


Superhoop

4,700 posts

199 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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sparta6 said:
Alpine or Ferrari may surprise everyone.
I'd add Mclaren to that list too..

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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George has to learn his craft in a new car and a new team but will be serous opposition to Verstappen unlike Bottas. I can see some big crashes between the 2 of them George won’t yield

thegreenhell

16,853 posts

225 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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Everyone has a lot of learning to do for next year, so changing teams shouldn't be too much of an extra hindrance to him. The cars and the tyres are going to be completely different for everyone.

We also shouldn't think of him as young and inexperienced anymore. He's only four months younger than Max, started racing single seaters in the same year as Max, and has won more championships than Max. He will do just fine.

cgt2

7,139 posts

194 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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Ferrari have been working on the new regs for a long time without the pressure of heated battle in 2021. With their driver pairing it could be a fantastic season for them.

glazbagun

14,431 posts

203 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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Had Lewis won his 8th I think George would have a better year. As it stands I think Lewis will be in Post-Rosberg beast mode and won't be in a charitable mood when it comes to his teammate (or anyone) this coming year. Assuming the cars are closer than they have been I can see a repeat of Lewis/Alonso with another team sneaking the WDC. Unless Lewis/George cut a deal in private.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 14th December 20:31

glazbagun

14,431 posts

203 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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cgt2 said:
Ferrari have been working on the new regs for a long time without the pressure of heated battle in 2021. With their driver pairing it could be a fantastic season for them.
Like Mercedes I think they'll have the Nico/Lewis problem. How can you favour LeClerc when Sainz has been so good. Of all the teams I'd say only Red Bull (and maybe Alfa) will have a clear #1 / #2 driver setup.

HARTLEYHARE1

588 posts

135 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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Let’s see how he deals with Mercedes first hand. I would rather be anywhere else to be honest after witnessing past few

JayK12

2,337 posts

208 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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Pretty sure GR will assist Lewis in getting his 8th WC, and Perez will continue to assist Max.

James44

266 posts

175 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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JayK12 said:
Pretty sure GR will assist Lewis in getting his 8th WC, and Perez will continue to assist Max.
He can try

Max has the mental upper hand over Lewis (and all other drivers). He also now clearly enjoys the support from FIA, FOM and the Race Director. I can't see him being stopped. Max won't need to 'get his elbows out' he can just throw them off the f***ing track.

Lando, George, Alex, Estabon; Great drivers but they haven't had their sportsmanship, empathy and personality surgically removed (which is what is required now).

spikyone

1,569 posts

106 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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glazbagun said:
Like Mercedes I think they'll have the Nico/Lewis problem. How can you favour LeClerc when Sainz has been so good. Of all the teams I'd say only Red Bull (and maybe Alfa) will have a clear #1 / #2 driver setup.
Nah, Bottas will get close to Zhou sometimes just like he did with Lewis.

usn90

1,579 posts

76 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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glazbagun said:
Had Lewis won his 8th I think George would have a better year. As it stands I think Lewis will be in Post-Rosberg beast mode and won't be in a charitable mood when it comes to his teammate (or anyone) this coming year. Assuming the cars are closer than they have been I can see a repeat of Lewis/Alonso with another team sneaking the WDC. Unless Lewis/George cut a deal in private.

Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 14th December 20:31
Ive thought similar, take this year as an example.

Had Lewis and George been trading the optimal strategies every race meanwhile max is there reaping the sole #1 status at RB I doubt this title would have gone to the wire. I only see Mercs line up as a hinderance In this respect.

Unless either George isn’t quite as good as I’m expecting, or merc lay down a very firm status quo in light of last weekend

skullcandy

57 posts

74 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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James44 said:
JayK12 said:
Pretty sure GR will assist Lewis in getting his 8th WC, and Perez will continue to assist Max.
He can try

Max has the mental upper hand over Lewis (and all other drivers). He also now clearly enjoys the support from FIA, FOM and the Race Director. I can't see him being stopped. Max won't need to 'get his elbows out' he can just throw them off the f***ing track.

Lando, George, Alex, Estabon; Great drivers but they haven't had their sportsmanship, empathy and personality surgically removed (which is what is required now).
Lewis totally owned Max over the last 4 races of this season and had the perfect riposte to every attempt by Max to punt him off and win the championship by default. Abu Dhabi was an embarrassment for Max with Lewis gapping him by 10+ seconds twice and a championship handed to him by the FIA. I think Hamilton is going to be a total beast next year and its Lewis who has the mental upper hand. GR no doubt currently has the inner self-belief that he will beat Lewis just like Bottas did, however he will share Bottas' fate.


Edited by skullcandy on Tuesday 14th December 22:02

thegreenhell

16,853 posts

225 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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I think Merc and Lewis will feel they have a point to prove next year and won't take any prisoners.

Schermerhorn

4,345 posts

195 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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Superhoop said:
sparta6 said:
Alpine or Ferrari may surprise everyone.
I'd add Mclaren to that list too..
And Haas.

Sandpit Steve

11,232 posts

80 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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Good luck to George, but as others have suggested the new rules mean we might have a shake-up.

If the order is the same as this season, George’s job is to not be as nice to opponents as Valtteri was. Get down and dirty with MV, playing him at his own game, and who cares if it means a few DNFs.

MB140

4,293 posts

109 months

Wednesday 15th December 2021
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cc3 said:
George has to learn his craft in a new car and a new team but will be serous opposition to Verstappen unlike Bottas. I can see some big crashes between the 2 of them George won’t yield
Which is exactly what merc and Lewis want. Someone who is fast, talented, hungry, loyal and sees his future post Lewis leaving merc.

George won’t jump out the way of max like botas has this year. George will have no issues with crashing with max if he tries some of the stupid moves he has on Lewis, and that just works in Lewis’s favour, a couple of DNF for max crashing with George and that’s his WDC hopes over.

George realises that his future is merc and post Lewis. He does a good job for merc now and he will get the support in the future.


Edited by MB140 on Wednesday 15th December 06:17