Mercedes out

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road hog

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2,570 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Heard rumours they might quit f1...

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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road hog said:
Heard rumours they might quit f1...
On Pistonheads?

FourWheelDrift

89,440 posts

290 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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They still won the constructors championship, that's the important one to Mercedes. There will still be celebrations in Stuttgart tonight.

E63eeeeee...

4,448 posts

55 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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I'd be tempted if I was Mercedes. They were far faster today and the race director basically decided Lewis should lose.

court

1,488 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Yep, they've had enough of selling millions of recession white A-class based washing machines every year.

FourWheelDrift

89,440 posts

290 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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road hog said:
Heard rumours they might quit f1...

E63eeeeee...

4,448 posts

55 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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court said:
Yep, they've had enough of selling millions of recession white A-class based washing machines every year.
You think lots of F1 fans buy white A180s?

court

1,488 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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E63eeeeee... said:
You think lots of F1 fans buy white A180s?
You're right, Merc are in it for the lulz.

E63eeeeee...

4,448 posts

55 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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court said:
E63eeeeee... said:
You think lots of F1 fans buy white A180s?
You're right, Merc are in it for the lulz.
Maybe you should have made a clearer point instead of snarky gibberish, but I'm pretty sure some manufacturers sell the odd car without being in F1.

hot metal

1,989 posts

199 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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A threat they may use to their advantage buts that`s all.

Presuming Ed

1,463 posts

214 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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The commercial benefits to Merc far outweigh the cost of participating in the sport. After sponsorship and prize money it really doesn’t cost them a great deal.

With Toto having a large stake in the team I’m sure he’ll be working hard to keep the investment flowing in

Murph7355

38,719 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Presuming Ed said:
The commercial benefits to Merc far outweigh the cost of participating in the sport. After sponsorship and prize money it really doesn’t cost them a great deal.

With Toto having a large stake in the team I’m sure he’ll be working hard to keep the investment flowing in
I wonder for how much longer that might be true...

The world moving toward electric power potentially makes F1 look more marginalised, especially with younger people.

And of the sport is seen to be rigged, would that not tarnish any future wins by Mercedes from here on in?

If they were inclined to leave, this might give them a get out.

Craig W

423 posts

165 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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road hog said:
Heard rumours they might quit f1...
No you haven’t, you’re st stirring. And no they won’t.

cgt2

7,139 posts

194 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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The US market is huge for them and Netflix has created millions of new fans who had no idea what F1 was five years ago.

Lewis is a global superstar to rival any basketball player whereas 20 years ago Schumacher used to say he enjoyed visiting the US as he could walk the streets in anonymity.

As sour as today's race was it's the new reality of the Netflix generation. Guaranteed front page global headlines tomorrow.

cgt2

7,139 posts

194 months

Sunday 12th December 2021
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Additionally, think of where Mercedes was as a brand a decade ago. 'Old man's car'. These days they are arguably considered as sporty and dynamic as any BMW or Audi. Fantastic products but that change in perception over a decade is almost entirely due to F1, even in the years when Vettel was winning. This is much much bigger than one race or championship.

Catatafish

1,422 posts

151 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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cgt2 said:
Additionally, think of where Mercedes was as a brand a decade ago. 'Old man's car'. These days they are arguably considered as sporty and dynamic as any BMW or Audi. Fantastic products but that change in perception over a decade is almost entirely due to F1, even in the years when Vettel was winning. This is much much bigger than one race or championship.
I have never thought of them as an "old mans car" brand. The first MB car that really got my attention was the AMG Black c class that came out years before they got into F1.

jimPH

3,981 posts

86 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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The damage to Mercedes after they've cried off and taken their ball home, will damage their brand way more than fighting next year.

They might sell more yellow cars though.

thegreenhell

16,853 posts

225 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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cgt2 said:
Additionally, think of where Mercedes was as a brand a decade ago. 'Old man's car'. These days they are arguably considered as sporty and dynamic as any BMW or Audi. Fantastic products but that change in perception over a decade is almost entirely due to F1, even in the years when Vettel was winning. This is much much bigger than one race or championship.
Wait what? Audis are sporty and dynamic?

StRemy

368 posts

38 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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Car manufacturers are not run with the CEO and the board of directors meeting in a “Stammtisch” at the local brewery, taking decisions based on the tabloids of the day and what people write on Internet forums. It doesn’t work like that biggrin

cgt2

7,139 posts

194 months

Monday 13th December 2021
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Catatafish said:
I have never thought of them as an "old mans car" brand. The first MB car that really got my attention was the AMG Black c class that came out years before they got into F1.
That was a direct quote from someone I knew years ago who worked for MB Retail. At the time they had a 7 year plan to reposition themselves and target a much younger audience. I would say they have done that pretty well. Forget the limited numbers AMG stuff and think old A Class vs new A Class and the respective ages of people who buy drive those models. Also the far more prominent branding of "AMG Line" on all current models.