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I’m no M car aficionado but I like them, especially older stuff. I choose BMWs as my company hacks and love them, ( currently 330e which is mega ).
I’ve not posted in this forum before but having just watched the latest vids on line featuring the Redux restored E30 I can’t help but comment..
Upon watching them it appears to be ok with the usual add on bits that most enthusiasts would consider ref brakes, ITB’s etc etc..Nothing mental and appears pretty good but with journos seemingly needing to point out multiples of x3 details in various bits of the trim as if that is somehow “special”? Seems to make a reasonable noise but didn’t look a patch on an E46 CSL IMPO...
It’s a nice thing sure but then came the price. £330k + doner car...!.? Really? Is it me...? I’ve seen a good few really nicely sorted M3’s over the years ranging from mild to wild but can’t believe you’d need to go anywhere near that figure to build something really special..
What a shame...I love the restomod thing but people taking the piss and milking it really switches me off...I assume you have to start with an M3 otherwise you’d be spending £330k on modding a 325i, ( or lesser 4 pot 2 door variant )! I get Singer and Alfaholics products but they are often using cooking models as doners and seem to create cars that are truly special. Maybe this is up there but I’m not so sure..
Maybe Im wrong and forgive me if I’m out of touch but it would be a real shame if too many original M3s get modded in the name of making the tuner an OTT profit... It could well be that the parts and hours owe them that much but I can’t help but think at £400k it would feel like less than the sum of its parts if that’s the case..
I’ve not posted in this forum before but having just watched the latest vids on line featuring the Redux restored E30 I can’t help but comment..
Upon watching them it appears to be ok with the usual add on bits that most enthusiasts would consider ref brakes, ITB’s etc etc..Nothing mental and appears pretty good but with journos seemingly needing to point out multiples of x3 details in various bits of the trim as if that is somehow “special”? Seems to make a reasonable noise but didn’t look a patch on an E46 CSL IMPO...
It’s a nice thing sure but then came the price. £330k + doner car...!.? Really? Is it me...? I’ve seen a good few really nicely sorted M3’s over the years ranging from mild to wild but can’t believe you’d need to go anywhere near that figure to build something really special..
What a shame...I love the restomod thing but people taking the piss and milking it really switches me off...I assume you have to start with an M3 otherwise you’d be spending £330k on modding a 325i, ( or lesser 4 pot 2 door variant )! I get Singer and Alfaholics products but they are often using cooking models as doners and seem to create cars that are truly special. Maybe this is up there but I’m not so sure..
Maybe Im wrong and forgive me if I’m out of touch but it would be a real shame if too many original M3s get modded in the name of making the tuner an OTT profit... It could well be that the parts and hours owe them that much but I can’t help but think at £400k it would feel like less than the sum of its parts if that’s the case..
Edited by Edmundo2 on Thursday 9th December 09:35
I haven't watched any of the videos yet but that price does not surprise me.
It's a shame that all these restomods - Alfaholics, Singer, Eagle etc are so far out of reach for most.
What's perhaps more of a shame is that the makers of the original cars don't care (or haven't realised) that their modern offerings are overweight and soul-less in comparison.
Maybe if BMW considered the principles and the ethos of the E30 in making the current M3, and other manufacturers did the same for their equivalents, we wouldn't be seeing this surge in popularity of restomods.
It's a shame that all these restomods - Alfaholics, Singer, Eagle etc are so far out of reach for most.
What's perhaps more of a shame is that the makers of the original cars don't care (or haven't realised) that their modern offerings are overweight and soul-less in comparison.
Maybe if BMW considered the principles and the ethos of the E30 in making the current M3, and other manufacturers did the same for their equivalents, we wouldn't be seeing this surge in popularity of restomods.
Edmundo2 said:
Agreed. Not driven a 1M or M2 Comp but should imagine they're great and whilst not as analogue or flyweight etc you're talking £50k not £400k...
Makes the Motorsport Tools Escorts look a positive bargain at £90k!
Quite right - and from what I understand, if you send MST £90k it even saves you the bother of having to find a donor car! Makes the Motorsport Tools Escorts look a positive bargain at £90k!
I think these Redux cars look quite cool, however as has been previously stated - at that price? Never.
Just watched the evenings episode of "Retropower Uncut" and its confirmed they did the work on the Redux car. I had wondered when they had a secret M3 build on the go and then the Redux car appeared at the same time...I'm a massive fan of their work and it's clear the quality will be great..
That said I do hope/assume its Redux profit margin that is making the price so eye watering. I'm sure RP builds are not cheap and they have every right to charge for such craftsmanship but not sure why I wouldn't go straight to them for a build rather than pay any extra wedge in the middle?
That said I do hope/assume its Redux profit margin that is making the price so eye watering. I'm sure RP builds are not cheap and they have every right to charge for such craftsmanship but not sure why I wouldn't go straight to them for a build rather than pay any extra wedge in the middle?
I followed Redux on Instagram, but I got utterly bored with the occasional image of some part they’d stripped, rebuilt and refinished with the frankly pathetic tag “Sneak peek” and “Enhance, Evolve”.
I’d hoped the end result of all their work would be something truly stunning (especially for the faintly ridiculous asking price), but having watched Henry Catchpole’s review I was left distinctly unimpressed.
As a former owner of a UK Evo II many years ago, I can vouch for the fact they are great cars, but for £300+K I’d want something waaaay more special than the product Redux are offering. It doesn't even have a Group A carbon airbox for the full on DTM induction noise .
I think I’d rather have a nice tidy E30 M3 with a S54B32HP shoehorned in properly, the five speed box from an E36 non-Evo M3, some decent brakes like those on the Redux, a set of custom built Ohlins TTX Dampers and some stock looking but lightweight carbon panels AND £200+K in the bank.
Or one of these ... :
I drove one some 18 years ago, it was a superb car, and far nicer as a road car than it's four pot cousin
I’d hoped the end result of all their work would be something truly stunning (especially for the faintly ridiculous asking price), but having watched Henry Catchpole’s review I was left distinctly unimpressed.
As a former owner of a UK Evo II many years ago, I can vouch for the fact they are great cars, but for £300+K I’d want something waaaay more special than the product Redux are offering. It doesn't even have a Group A carbon airbox for the full on DTM induction noise .
I think I’d rather have a nice tidy E30 M3 with a S54B32HP shoehorned in properly, the five speed box from an E36 non-Evo M3, some decent brakes like those on the Redux, a set of custom built Ohlins TTX Dampers and some stock looking but lightweight carbon panels AND £200+K in the bank.
Or one of these ... :
I drove one some 18 years ago, it was a superb car, and far nicer as a road car than it's four pot cousin
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