What if LH does MV in AD?

[numtumfutunch]

1) Sorry for abbreviations, I hate them ordinarily

2) COI: I quite like LH and think MV is a petulant you know what

3) This is to balance the other thread asking if Max would take out Lewis in the next race

So............ How would we feel if Max is leading the final race, we're down to the last 5 laps and our hero is unable to overtake? What if Lewis then goes for a WTF move which Max has to be honest sent to various people a number of times this season with nothing to lose as he's effectively lost?

Second = first of the losers, and second in the race for LH means Max is WDC

LH has nothing to lose so whats to stop him pulling a crazy late braking manoeuvre leading to a crash? Its a 50:50 who comes through unscathed but if you're a psycho then why not?

My own thoughts involve that German word beginning with sch-something but if LH won from a questionable coming together Max has been having for quite a long time would you lot, or the FIA, care?

Cheers, Im being intentionally provocative

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

if Lewis punts Max out, and damages his car in the process so he can't finish the race, Max is the champ, as more wins the season

[stevemcs]

It would be no different to the days of senna and prost,I would rather neither of them crash - rubbing is fine but a result based on the fastest race and preferably based on racing and not strategy

I still want max to win although Hamilton is the more complete driver and no doubt the better driver.

[dh00065p]

It would have been far more sensible if the FIA had docked Verstappen’s a win whilst letting him keep the points than giving him a meaningless 10 second penalty.
That way either of the two drivers would have to win to be champion thus taking away any incentive to take the other out.
I know it’s a pipe dream but it probably would ensure the last race is a great display of the talents of both drivers and their teams.

[numtumfutunch]

dh00065p said:

It would have been far more sensible if the FIA had docked Verstappen’s a win whilst letting him keep the points than giving him a meaningless 10 second penalty.
That way either of the two drivers would have to win to be champion thus taking away any incentive to take the other out.
I know it’s a pipe dream but it probably would ensure the last race is a great display of the talents of both drivers and their teams.

Genius

[stevemcs]

dh00065p said:

It would have been far more sensible if the FIA had docked Verstappen’s a win whilst letting him keep the points than giving him a meaningless 10 second penalty.
That way either of the two drivers would have to win to be champion thus taking away any incentive to take the other out.
I know it’s a pipe dream but it probably would ensure the last race is a great display of the talents of both drivers and their teams.

The only issue is Perez or Bottas could wipe out Hamilton or Max and get a result (I hope that doesn’t happen either)

[Carlososos]

numtumfutunch said:

dh00065p said:

It would have been far more sensible if the FIA had docked Verstappen’s a win whilst letting him keep the points than giving him a meaningless 10 second penalty.
That way either of the two drivers would have to win to be champion thus taking away any incentive to take the other out.
I know it’s a pipe dream but it probably would ensure the last race is a great display of the talents of both drivers and their teams.

Genius

Then it’ll go back to most 2nd places I would imagine. The only way to see a fair race if Lewis was ahead by a point and even then I wouldn’t put it passed max to take a swipe up the inside.

[paulw123]

Come the last couple of laps is he’s stuck in p2 Lewis has nothing to loose by chucking it in Max style and hoping for the best. He has second place anyway. Guess it depends on if his points are needed for the WCC

[mattikake]

Not ever going to happen. LH will accept it and lose like he did in 2016.

Nice attempt to drag lewis all the way down to max's level and get people to justify the aspersion by humouring you and joining in on the fantasy, but the number of replies v's the max crash thread should highlight the percieved gulf in ethical standards between the two. The fans have the guts to say it, because it's not our job and part of the fun. It's only those involved in the sport who don't have the strength of character to say what they mean without risking their livelihood.

[Flooble]

Mercedes are ahead by 28 points, while a 1 + 2 for Red Bull would garner them 43 points, Bottas could still keep things level as long as he pootled in to last place on the podium (15 points).

Only risk is if Bottas has got stuck in 4th or 5th place (or lower) again.

But if Hamilton has ended up making a desperate lunge because Max has been doing his traditional weaving, running wide and ignoring turns then it's worth remembering that at some point there will be blue flags being waved for Russell to let Max past. Since we now know that braking in the middle of the track and jinking around only attracts a ten second penalty, I imagine in that scenario Russell will be aware of how he has to let Max past - I think Red Bull like to refer to it as "strategically".

[Eric Mc]

I hate abbreviations with a passion.

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

Eric Mc said:

I hate abbreviations with a passion.

Of course.

[mat205125]

Same should apply if either protagonist is deemed majority at fault, with the other a DNF

Disqualification from the race.

Much harsher than normal handful of seconds added to their race, like for Lewis at Silverstone, however essential at this stage of the game

[cgt2]

I think Max drove like a s**t on Sunday and on current form LH fully deserves and I expect will win.

But equally I'm not one of the people who gets emotionally supercharged on here and clearly remember how Lewis drove obstructively, slowing down and speeding up in Abu Dhabi 2016 in a fairly blatant attempt to get Rosberg to trip up somehow (which he didn't).

But six years on LH is absolutely on top of his game and seems much more resistant to psychological pressure.

[HocusPocus]

I hope Domenicali will tell all teams this week that if their drivers are predominately to blame for a collision ending the race of another competitor, then they risk losing all their season points. There is precedence for Schumacher after he attempted to take out Villeneuve.

Let's pray for a clean fight, and may the best driver and team win on track. After all, racing is what the F1 punters pay for. Those looking for carnage thrills tune into Nascar.

[Pinkie15]

HocusPocus said:

… then they risk losing all their season points. There is precedence for Schumacher after he attempted to take out .

But Schumi didn’t lose his points, wins, poles etc…, he was DQ from the championship. As he was second he possibly wasn’t too bothered about that. And it meant Ferrari kept his points for the constructors championship.

[sparta6]

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

if Lewis punts Max out, and damages his car in the process so he can't finish the race, Max is the champ, as more wins the season

Ham did a good job at Sliverstone so anything is possible.
He knows all about impact trajectory and how to do it properly.

[abzmike]

In the supreme court of PH, it will still be Max's fault. It is predetermined, just like it was in the thread started weeks before the Saudi GP.

[nickfrog]

sparta6 said:

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

if Lewis punts Max out, and damages his car in the process so he can't finish the race, Max is the champ, as more wins the season

Ham did a good job at Sliverstone so anything is possible.
He knows all about impact trajectory and how to do it properly.

All he had to do was to learn from Max I guess but I don't think it is in his nature. It certainly hasn't been in his career so far.

[MustangGT]

dh00065p said:

It would have been far more sensible if the FIA had docked Verstappen’s a win whilst letting him keep the points than giving him a meaningless 10 second penalty.
That way either of the two drivers would have to win to be champion thus taking away any incentive to take the other out.
I know it’s a pipe dream but it probably would ensure the last race is a great display of the talents of both drivers and their teams.

Even easier to remove Spa as a race, since it was not.