997.1 off the road for 5yrs and then rebuilt
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Hi all, just curious if this would bother someone looking to buy a 911? I know typically full OPC history etc is sought after so I wondered what the consensus would be in this situation.
The car in question is an early low mileage, nicely optioned C2S that the first owner took off the road in 2012, allegedly dry stored and then a dealer bought it some 5yrs later with engine out due bore score.
The engine was sent off to Hartech where it underwent a full rebuild. Further works were carried out to recommission the car including suspension components, AC system, steering rack, clutch etc. The dealer then retailed the car once the work was complete and has recently taken the car back into stock.
It’s got me interested but it’s top money and the history is putting me off slightly…I don’t suppose it would be an issue if I planned it to be a keeper but I suffer from itchy feet, wouldn’t want to get stuck with it.
The car in question is an early low mileage, nicely optioned C2S that the first owner took off the road in 2012, allegedly dry stored and then a dealer bought it some 5yrs later with engine out due bore score.
The engine was sent off to Hartech where it underwent a full rebuild. Further works were carried out to recommission the car including suspension components, AC system, steering rack, clutch etc. The dealer then retailed the car once the work was complete and has recently taken the car back into stock.
It’s got me interested but it’s top money and the history is putting me off slightly…I don’t suppose it would be an issue if I planned it to be a keeper but I suffer from itchy feet, wouldn’t want to get stuck with it.
Yeah I guess it’s an “explained gap” but who really knows what conditions it sat in for 5yrs. Also had “bits and pieces” of paintwork done so I don’t know if that’s just front end or if roofs been done due bird muck from barn storage or rear bumper from being moved about, who knows, but I’m fussy when it comes to paint…much rather original stone chipped front end but they all seem to be done and to varying levels of quality.
Can’t seem to paste the advert but it’s £35k, 2006, 57k rare dark olive, manual C2S more or less fully optioned from what I can see.
Can’t seem to paste the advert but it’s £35k, 2006, 57k rare dark olive, manual C2S more or less fully optioned from what I can see.
This one I presume?
Looks nice. Coupe, manual, C2S, Hartexh rebuild, black leather interior and sports seats.
Find out exactly what the Hartech rebuild entailed. Get it inspected and buy on condition.
Price is a little high, but higher mile Gen 2's will be £40k+.
In future people will look for good cars, an engine rebuild should give peace of mind and you will build more recent history.
Looks nice. Coupe, manual, C2S, Hartexh rebuild, black leather interior and sports seats.
Find out exactly what the Hartech rebuild entailed. Get it inspected and buy on condition.
Price is a little high, but higher mile Gen 2's will be £40k+.
In future people will look for good cars, an engine rebuild should give peace of mind and you will build more recent history.
g7jhp said:
This one I presume?
Looks nice. Coupe, manual, C2S, Hartexh rebuild, black leather interior and sports seats.
Find out exactly what the Hartech rebuild entailed. Get it inspected and buy on condition.
Price is a little high, but higher mile Gen 2's will be £40k+.
In future people will look for good cars, an engine rebuild should give peace of mind and you will build more recent history.
Perfect advice, I reckon. I would hope Hartech would be happy to run through everything they did on the car. Hopefully it will have been a full rebuild, rather than just one bank of cylinders. Looks nice. Coupe, manual, C2S, Hartexh rebuild, black leather interior and sports seats.
Find out exactly what the Hartech rebuild entailed. Get it inspected and buy on condition.
Price is a little high, but higher mile Gen 2's will be £40k+.
In future people will look for good cars, an engine rebuild should give peace of mind and you will build more recent history.
It looks a stunning car to be honest. If I were after a gen 1 car I’d be looking to snap that up. Stunning colour too. Good luck, OP!
GaryG182 said:
Ah balls, you lot were meant to deter me! It’s the other end of the country and now I’m looking at flights. Any recommendations for a PPI in Scotland?
There was an ask about a Porsche Specialist in Edinburgh the other day on this thread and they are circa 13 mins from your dealer. Seemed to be a lot of recommendations.I'd give your dealer a call and discuss as sometimes people don't like some other garages.
But I'm sure they'll know each other and may well do work for them.
Goodluck.
OP, as others have said, the devil is in the detail of the rebuild work done and ideally you’d want a copy of the Harlech invoice to support the claim before you consider travelling to see it. The last MOT has some advisories and I’d be asking that all the items have/will be rectified before purchase if you are buying from a dealer in the depths of winter - the colour of the car isn’t well shown in the photos and hence just be aware that it might be akin to Marmite I.e, some do love it etc. although it makes a change from all the black and silver ones 
If the car is someway from home, be prepared to travel back to collect it and don’t get all excited to take it away “there and then” unless things like the tyres can be factored in to a deal & you have had estimates beforehand to get the items fixed (it will be often cheaper for a dealer to get things fixed in the trade than for members of the public but again ask for invoices to show the work has been completed rather than taking their word). Brakes and suspension parts can become expensive replacement items so a PPI by an independent specialist would be my advice (as others have also recommended),
Cars at this time of year can often take a while to sell so weigh up the price of a non Hartech car vs this one (the difference in value isn’t anywhere near the cost of the engine work btw).
If the car is someway from home, be prepared to travel back to collect it and don’t get all excited to take it away “there and then” unless things like the tyres can be factored in to a deal & you have had estimates beforehand to get the items fixed (it will be often cheaper for a dealer to get things fixed in the trade than for members of the public but again ask for invoices to show the work has been completed rather than taking their word). Brakes and suspension parts can become expensive replacement items so a PPI by an independent specialist would be my advice (as others have also recommended),
Cars at this time of year can often take a while to sell so weigh up the price of a non Hartech car vs this one (the difference in value isn’t anywhere near the cost of the engine work btw).
From a forest green 997.1 owner, you won’t regret the the colour and probably never see another the same.
Ask yourself if if you looked again tomorrow and it was sold how would you feel ?
I have never seen this colour before.
Price maybe strong but time will work in its favour.
Get up early and have a look before someone else does!!
Ask yourself if if you looked again tomorrow and it was sold how would you feel ?
I have never seen this colour before.
Price maybe strong but time will work in its favour.
Get up early and have a look before someone else does!!
Car looks fantastic. I would certainly get it on ramps and have someone check the things you can’t see I.e. coolant pipes, brake lines, gearbox coolant pipes, rear main seal leak, coffin arms etc. etc.
Having just been through all this work with my own 997.1 it isn’t cheap. The car being that old I would suspect the coolant pipes will be corroded, so prepare for further expense.
£30K would be a more realistic price IMO. However when cars look that good, the vendor will know he can stick with his price. Keep us informed & good luck OP
Having just been through all this work with my own 997.1 it isn’t cheap. The car being that old I would suspect the coolant pipes will be corroded, so prepare for further expense.
£30K would be a more realistic price IMO. However when cars look that good, the vendor will know he can stick with his price. Keep us informed & good luck OP
Having owned a 997.1 & commissioned Hartech rebuild work I know the devil is in the detail of whether it was ‘full works’ or dealer refurb spec etc. With out doubt either is better than an ‘under the arches’ once over
However this car has a £35k asking price apparently justified by its provenance which needs to be clearly evidenced.
However this car has a £35k asking price apparently justified by its provenance which needs to be clearly evidenced.
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