All seasons or summer tyres for my TT quattro?

All seasons or summer tyres for my TT quattro?

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Leicesterdave

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2,287 posts

195 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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All budget related but hesitating.

Cross Climates + for £800 a set

or Pirelli's P Zero's for £550...

Part of me knows the answer- especially as I have the quattro, would make so much sense as would cope so well with the UK weather. But then again does the UK weather really warrant spending another £250 for all seasons?

Earthdweller

16,028 posts

141 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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Only you will know

I’m out in the north west of Ireland and I’m running all Seasons all year round on my mini

But it never stops raining here ( well ok sometimes ) and the roads aren’t ever gritted si can quickly become absolutely deadly

We need our cars ( the other is a 4x4 that I put full winters on

We do regular long trips and Tesco’s is a 44 mile round trip

The all seasons are brilliant without a doubt, yes not quite as crisp as UHP summers but the perfect compromise for where we are which is mostly cold and wet

If I was on the south coast of Ireland/U.K. would I bother no probably not


stevieturbo

17,773 posts

262 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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Leicesterdave said:
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All budget related but hesitating.

Cross Climates + for £800 a set

or Pirelli's P Zero's for £550...

Part of me knows the answer- especially as I have the quattro, would make so much sense as would cope so well with the UK weather. But then again does the UK weather really warrant spending another £250 for all seasons?
Well IF you live in Leicester...I guess you don't often see extremes of weather ?

We've no idea where you drive or the environments you drive in to know.

thebraketester

15,035 posts

153 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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PS4.

Leicesterdave

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2,287 posts

195 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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stevieturbo said:
Well IF you live in Leicester...I guess you don't often see extremes of weather ?

We've no idea where you drive or the environments you drive in to know.
Actually live in Leeds now but it's hardly the highlands!

Evanivitch

24,455 posts

137 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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Are you really going to take it out in snow/ice? Cross climates are great touring tyres but I expect they won't give the performance you want in summer and will probably wear quickly if pushed hard (they last 30,000 miles plus in more sedate use).

Perhaps consider a Primacy if you want good wet weather performance and descent summer performance.

Or, there is now a Pilot Sport All Season 4.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-UHP-All-S...

stevieturbo

17,773 posts

262 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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Leicesterdave said:
Actually live in Leeds now but it's hardly the highlands!
Well then, that's the first piece of useful info to try and make a suggestion.

If you are not experiencing a lot of cold/wet/snow driving environments, then all weather tyres perhaps make less sense

Leicesterdave

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2,287 posts

195 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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stevieturbo said:
Well then, that's the first piece of useful info to try and make a suggestion.

If you are not experiencing a lot of cold/wet/snow driving environments, then all weather tyres perhaps make less sense
I mean it's not Brighton either but Leeds does get the occasional snow.... But as I said- are the all seasons worth the additional premium?

Evanivitch

24,455 posts

137 months

Sunday 21st November 2021
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Leicesterdave said:
I mean it's not Brighton either but Leeds does get the occasional snow.... But as I said- are the all seasons worth the additional premium?
How often would you venture out in wintry conditions when it 'could' snow before you return home?

I used to work up the Welsh valleys and frequently drive to Bedfordshire and back, so all season were a no-brainer for me.

Smint

2,378 posts

50 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Cross climate's arn't the only all season tyre worth fitting, check TyreReviews (website and youtube videos) and you'll find others worth considering that might be more sensibly priced, sadly the wrong season for winter rated bargains and tyres like many other things have risen in price over the last 12 months.

Dog Star

16,973 posts

183 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Smint said:
Cross climate's arn't the only all season tyre worth fitting, check TyreReviews (website and youtube videos) and you'll find others worth considering that might be more sensibly priced, sadly the wrong season for winter rated bargains and tyres like many other things have risen in price over the last 12 months.
Crossclimate 2s are winning all the reviews now and - strangely for Michelin - are competitively priced.

I’ve just fitted four to our new shopping wagon and they were basically double the price of a cheapie Maxxis. I expect way more than double the miles, and also that grip to remain high and constant throughout the tyre life.

With regard to weather - I’ve never had proper scares or moments through running out of grip in the dry - I have had crashes and a couple of big accidents in pouring rain though (including once closing the M62) hence I prioritise wet grip over everything (living in the Pennines it rains. Always)

Crossclimates fit the bill. I’d fit them to every car we own if they did the sizes.

Leicesterdave

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2,287 posts

195 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Continental all seasons seem to be worth a shot too....

I think I'll go all seasons- I then have a motor that I have 100% confidence in everything the British weather throws at it.

bern

1,302 posts

235 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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I'm running Vredestein quatrac-5 all seasons on my Subaru Legacy. I'm guessing they would be cheaper than cross climates and I've no complaints at all about them, I run them all year. I don't drive around on the door handles but they've been on 2 1/2 years, I've done 14000 miles and have just swapped them around, fronts on to the rear and visa versa. They aren't even half worn, 6mm remaining.

And in the snow they are hilarious hehe




E-bmw

11,079 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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bern said:
I'm running Vredestein quatrac-5 all seasons on my Subaru Legacy.

And in the snow they are hilarious hehe
Maybe that isn't what they should be. wink

bern

1,302 posts

235 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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E-bmw said:
bern said:
I'm running Vredestein quatrac-5 all seasons on my Subaru Legacy.

And in the snow they are hilarious hehe
Maybe that isn't what they should be. wink
True, probably the wrong adjective but, I did manage to do a neat 4 wheel drift past my neighbour whilst he was trying and failing to more his Mercedes off his drive!

stevieturbo

17,773 posts

262 months

Monday 22nd November 2021
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Leicesterdave said:
I mean it's not Brighton either but Leeds does get the occasional snow.... But as I said- are the all seasons worth the additional premium?
It's a personal decision only you can make, knowing the conditions you will be driving in.

I put a set on my Dads car recently....It's less often it is sunny and dry, than it is cold and wet. I see it as the safer option for him, most of the time, and saves me the hassle of switching to snow/winter tyres, when we really don't get much snow at all.
So they're just an all rounder, they make sense in this case.

As for price, worth it, etc etc...all relative. If I can pay a small premium for added safety on one of the most critical parts of the car. For me it is worth it vs some cheap crap. I didn't find the CC2's overly expensive via Blackcircles.

As for anyone expecting the same or better mileage from the likes of CC2 or any similar tyre compared to say a summer tyre, I'd say that's being hopeful.
CC2 will be a softer compound, and the tread more likely to wear.