Amazon not accepting visa credit cards from Jan 22
Amazon not accepting visa credit cards from Jan 22
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Venisonpie

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4,900 posts

112 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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I reeived an email to this effect this morning, big call on their part?

Hub

7,154 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Yep, just got that email. I imagine Visa is the most popular credit card in the UK?

Another Brexit bonus

PM3

1,228 posts

90 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Got that email. Indeed a bold move. It's rather (historically) ironic that they however accept AMEX who back in the day were the much hated card provider in UK/Europe.
Personally I have been settling all my amazon and other online spending to my AMEX for a while now since their big push for adoption.

Carbon Sasquatch

5,227 posts

94 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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It appears to be restricted to UK issued VISA credit cards.

Debit cards & non-UK issued cards not affected.

Presumably there is a charging anomaly that VISA were not prepared to correct ?

jet_noise

6,101 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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thebraketester said:
I bet Amazon lose close to zero customers due to this.
+1

bigandclever

14,406 posts

268 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Carbon Sasquatch said:
Presumably there is a charging anomaly that VISA were not prepared to correct ?
The EU cap on transaction fees that no longer applies to the UK means Visa are planning to increase their fees on UK-based cards. Amazon don't want to pay those higher fees.

dingg

4,561 posts

249 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Pity it wasn't mastercard, my Mrs is wasting a small fortune lately :-(

abzmike

12,069 posts

136 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Both my Visa debit cards (First Direct and RBS) have changed to Mastercard, seems a wholesale change by UK banks. Bit of a pain having to update a bunch of subscriptions, ecommerse sites, memebrships etc, until the new number is memorised like my Visa one was.

Carbon Sasquatch

5,227 posts

94 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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I did wonder why my First Direct debit card changed.

Does seem like a spectacularly dumb move by Visa....

Aunty Pasty

786 posts

68 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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I wonder if Amazon will be promoting their own financial services soon.

Dave350

359 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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I'd also noticed my Santander debit switched from VISA to Mastercard in the past six months.

Seems they are annoying a few people.

GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

194 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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Aunty Pasty said:
I wonder if Amazon will be promoting their own financial services soon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/cobrandcard/marketing.html

Amazon Mastercard...

Countdown

49,519 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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My FD debit card and RBS Credir card have both changed to MasterCard. FD CC is still Visa for some reason.

Simpo Two

92,955 posts

295 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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bigandclever said:
The EU cap on transaction fees that no longer applies to the UK means Visa are planning to increase their fees on UK-based cards. Amazon don't want to pay those higher fees.
I imagined it was all down to fees. Poor old Amazon, down to their last trillion dollars.

Now that we're out of the EU perhaps we can have 1% cashback on CC purchases again smile

TheK1981

331 posts

105 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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It’s a bit of a pain, I have 2 credit cards, 1 Visa, 1 MasterCard, the Visa one is changing to MasterCard, I had 1 of each in case of issues like they had a few years ago when Visa (I think it was Visa) stopped working. The cash back offers look ok with Amex so I applied yesterday.

OldSkoolRS

7,273 posts

209 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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I had the silly idea that it might stop people buying crap they don't really need as I'd just presumed they'd have to use a debit card instead and therefore pay for it straight away. I guess there are still other options though and the above mentioned Amazon card.

I wonder if it might start a wider spread situation with other online shops?

bigandclever

14,406 posts

268 months

Wednesday 17th November 2021
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OldSkoolRS said:
I wonder if it might start a wider spread situation with other online shops?
Amazon in particular are moaning because most of their .co.uk transactions are actually done in Luxembourg, for tax reasons .. Visa are suggesting an increase in fees to 1.5 per cent of the transaction value for credit card payments made online or over the phone between the UK and EU, and 1.15 per cent for debit card transactions, up from 0.3 per cent and 0.2 per cent respectively, in essence making it 1% of your Amazon order more expensive. As a deeply price-driven retailer, this is a big number.

Interestingly (or not!) Mastercard have already raised their rates because the EU cap is gone. So, presumably, one can guess that there is significantly more business done using Visa than Mastercard at Amazon (unless I missed it and they’ve already moaned about that as well).

Amazon have just gone public with their negotiations with visa .. ‘do you want 100% of no pie, or a smaller % of a massive pie?’

Edited by bigandclever on Wednesday 17th November 21:07

AJB88

15,905 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Annoying, my Barclaycard, I get points back for spending on it so I use it for everything. is Visa.


yeager2004

281 posts

121 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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Any recommendations for non-visa credit cards with the best cash back? I had a quick search, but some of them include a monthly fee which if I'm only using it for Amazon purchases probably wouldn't cost in.


grumbas

1,172 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th November 2021
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What I find most interesting is they're still taking Amex.

In my experience Amex fees have always been by far the highest, which is why the best reward cards are usually Amex and many small businesses don't take them.

It'd be interesting to know how much Amazon have managed screw Amex down on fees if Visa is the first one they're cutting...