Official 2021 Turkish Grand Prix **SPOILERS**

Official 2021 Turkish Grand Prix **SPOILERS**

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Piginapoke

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4,957 posts

191 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Round 16 and on to Turkey. Interesting to see if Max can retake the championship lead here, it looks to be more of a Red Bull circuit. Lewis may choose to take a new engine here, as most commentators think he’ll need to at some point.

If it’s half as good as Russia, it will be a cracker. Last year was wet, so let’s hope so.

Date(s): Friday 8 October to Sunday 10 October 2021.

UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)

All sessions are live on Sky F1 and Channel 4.





Live timing for all sessions available here:

https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html

Lap times, PU component use, technical reports and Stewards' decisions for the weekend will appear here:

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-c...

Weather forecast:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/745044

Tyre options:

Teams have two hard, three mediums and eight soft sets available per driver for each weekend.



2020 race result:



2020 Race Highlights:

https://youtu.be/57VVjxsK_cU











Edited by Piginapoke on Sunday 3rd October 15:13

Sandpit Steve

11,232 posts

80 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Epic race last year, that saw Lewis clinch the championship in a set of Inter tyres worn slick, and a car that should have been preserved, Le Mans style, covered in the grime of the race.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/11/15/2020-turkish-g...

Carlososos

976 posts

102 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Yes let’s hope it’s even half as good as last years race.

TheDeuce

24,379 posts

72 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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It sadly won't have the comedy slippery track surface it has last year - which behaved like a wet track even before it rained..

But I'm still looking forward to it and glad it's actually able to go ahead. It didn't look likely not that long ago.

talksthetorque

10,820 posts

141 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Can't see what the tyres will be - I'm guessing they'll go for the softest compounds to try and get some grip?
I know it's a week away but BBC weather predicting some rain on Saturday and clouds all Sunday, so track temps low again as they were in Russia.
Be good to see how raring to go both the top two are, after great results last time.


Piginapoke

Original Poster:

4,957 posts

191 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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talksthetorque said:
Can't see what the tyres will be - I'm guessing they'll go for the softest compounds to try and get some grip?
I know it's a week away but BBC weather predicting some rain on Saturday and clouds all Sunday, so track temps low again as they were in Russia.
Be good to see how raring to go both the top two are, after great results last time.
I understand that tyres will be the softest available, but can't find anything official from Pirelli. Will post it when I do.

talksthetorque

10,820 posts

141 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Piginapoke said:
talksthetorque said:
Can't see what the tyres will be - I'm guessing they'll go for the softest compounds to try and get some grip?
I know it's a week away but BBC weather predicting some rain on Saturday and clouds all Sunday, so track temps low again as they were in Russia.
Be good to see how raring to go both the top two are, after great results last time.
I understand that tyres will be the softest available, but can't find anything official from Pirelli. Will post it when I do.
Hi PIAP, apologies, I reread my post and realised it might have sounded like a complaint. I also meant I couldn't find anything online official or not, to indicate what they would be.
It wasn't meant and such and I hope it didn't come across to you as that. To confirm I will not be donning my Karen wig and asking to see the manager biggrin
It's much appreciated that you do these threads.



Piginapoke

Original Poster:

4,957 posts

191 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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talksthetorque said:
Piginapoke said:
talksthetorque said:
Can't see what the tyres will be - I'm guessing they'll go for the softest compounds to try and get some grip?
I know it's a week away but BBC weather predicting some rain on Saturday and clouds all Sunday, so track temps low again as they were in Russia.
Be good to see how raring to go both the top two are, after great results last time.
I understand that tyres will be the softest available, but can't find anything official from Pirelli. Will post it when I do.
Hi PIAP, apologies, I reread my post and realised it might have sounded like a complaint. I also meant I couldn't find anything online official or not, to indicate what they would be.
It wasn't meant and such and I hope it didn't come across to you as that. To confirm I will not be donning my Karen wig and asking to see the manager biggrin
It's much appreciated that you do these threads.
No problems at all!

M5-911

1,422 posts

51 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Tough call. If the softest tyres are on, Redbull are favourites. Fingers crossed for a crazy race!

Deesee

8,509 posts

89 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Piginapoke said:
talksthetorque said:
Piginapoke said:
talksthetorque said:
Can't see what the tyres will be - I'm guessing they'll go for the softest compounds to try and get some grip?
I know it's a week away but BBC weather predicting some rain on Saturday and clouds all Sunday, so track temps low again as they were in Russia.
Be good to see how raring to go both the top two are, after great results last time.
I understand that tyres will be the softest available, but can't find anything official from Pirelli. Will post it when I do.
Hi PIAP, apologies, I reread my post and realised it might have sounded like a complaint. I also meant I couldn't find anything online official or not, to indicate what they would be.
It wasn't meant and such and I hope it didn't come across to you as that. To confirm I will not be donning my Karen wig and asking to see the manager biggrin
It's much appreciated that you do these threads.
No problems at all!
Last year Pirelli took the C1 C2 C3 (hardest) for the predicted aero loads, the softer tyres in the range could struggle.

They have also re surfaced the track and water tested/blasted it which should improve grip.

However it’s an largely unused surface and may not actually yield any more grip than last year.

The Pirelli’s used to be made in Turkey (now Romania) it would not surprise me if they bring a spread of tyres perhaps even with a gap by utilising the tyres that were earmarked for Singapore/Suzuka.

Piginapoke

Original Poster:

4,957 posts

191 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Deesee said:
Piginapoke said:
talksthetorque said:
Piginapoke said:
talksthetorque said:
Can't see what the tyres will be - I'm guessing they'll go for the softest compounds to try and get some grip?
I know it's a week away but BBC weather predicting some rain on Saturday and clouds all Sunday, so track temps low again as they were in Russia.
Be good to see how raring to go both the top two are, after great results last time.
I understand that tyres will be the softest available, but can't find anything official from Pirelli. Will post it when I do.
Hi PIAP, apologies, I reread my post and realised it might have sounded like a complaint. I also meant I couldn't find anything online official or not, to indicate what they would be.
It wasn't meant and such and I hope it didn't come across to you as that. To confirm I will not be donning my Karen wig and asking to see the manager biggrin
It's much appreciated that you do these threads.
No problems at all!
Last year Pirelli took the C1 C2 C3 (hardest) for the predicted aero loads, the softer tyres in the range could struggle.

They have also re surfaced the track and water tested/blasted it which should improve grip.

However it’s an largely unused surface and may not actually yield any more grip than last year.

The Pirelli’s used to be made in Turkey (now Romania) it would not surprise me if they bring a spread of tyres perhaps even with a gap by utilising the tyres that were earmarked for Singapore/Suzuka.
You're right, Pirelli did bring the hardest compounds last year, but admitted this was an error (drivers struggled on the Friday IIRC)

talksthetorque

10,820 posts

141 months

Sunday 3rd October 2021
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Piginapoke said:
You're right, Pirelli did bring the hardest compounds last year, but admitted this was an error (drivers struggled on the Friday IIRC)
Yup, it sounded like nobody bothered tot tell them they resurfaced the track!
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pirelli-learned...

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

202 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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As DeeSee says, there's no guarantee that the track will be any grippier than last year although the weather looks more favourable this year.

TheDeuce

24,379 posts

72 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
As DeeSee says, there's no guarantee that the track will be any grippier than last year although the weather looks more favourable this year.
No guarantee but it seems highly likely it will be improved - last year it was hilariously low grip and they have responded and spent money to seek an improvement, which I expect will be at least partially successful. It will always be above average slippy due to limited use compared to other venues..

But we'll never know for sure to what extent it's improved, because this season Pirelli will not use the hardest compounds available which will itself change the grip level to a fairly significant extent.

Likes Fast Cars

2,884 posts

171 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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The weather here in Istanbul right now is patchy, I wish it would just bl00dy pee down and fill the almost empty reservoirs (before Sunday's race).

Should be a good one though.

Smollet

11,471 posts

196 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Likes Fast Cars said:
The weather here in Istanbul right now is patchy, I wish it would just bl00dy pee down and fill the almost empty reservoirs (before Sunday's race).

Should be a good one though.
What’s the forecast for the weekend?

Piginapoke

Original Poster:

4,957 posts

191 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Smollet said:
What’s the forecast for the weekend?
There’s always a link in the OP


TheDeuce

24,379 posts

72 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Chance of rain over the weekend = slim.

It might be quite nice to see a less compromised race here this season. Last time was hilarious and dramatic... But this is also a decent circuit for proper racing without needing rain or a freakishly slippery dry track to 'spice up'.

looking forward to it.

Smollet

11,471 posts

196 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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Piginapoke said:
There’s always a link in the OP
Ah. Thanks

Mr Dendrite

2,338 posts

216 months

Monday 4th October 2021
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One notch softer from the sound of it C2, C3, C4. Hope it’s a dry race!