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silverfoxcc said:
AND an proper racing driver sports cars, F1/2 Le Mans , unlike the prima donnas of today
Contracts and race schedules do not allow modern drivers to compete in other series (or very few). How many F1 races drivers in the 60-70s had to do every year? How many today? Calling them prima donnas shows a lack of knowledge from your side.And besides that, he was a very clever guy, a close friend to a certain Mr E.
They both laid the foundation for the future marketing of F1, which came to fruition in the late 70s. My guess is that Jochen was actually the greater force between them, as he already had media presence in austrian and german TV, was the founder of the Essen Motor Show and had his plans for that kind of business after retirement, which was planned for 71 or 72.
Niki Lauda kind of formed his business attitude around this benchmark, too.
And never forgotten, was actually my Mom's favourite driver until Senna, both from the same brave and fearless mould, with exceptional car control.
It's a joy to watch the old GPs on YouTube, cars sliding around etc etc
Yeah, definitely gone too soon..
They both laid the foundation for the future marketing of F1, which came to fruition in the late 70s. My guess is that Jochen was actually the greater force between them, as he already had media presence in austrian and german TV, was the founder of the Essen Motor Show and had his plans for that kind of business after retirement, which was planned for 71 or 72.
Niki Lauda kind of formed his business attitude around this benchmark, too.
And never forgotten, was actually my Mom's favourite driver until Senna, both from the same brave and fearless mould, with exceptional car control.
It's a joy to watch the old GPs on YouTube, cars sliding around etc etc
Yeah, definitely gone too soon..
I watched Jochen Rindt come through F2 and into F1 and formed the opinion that he was one of the finest drivers I ever saw .
His battle with Jackie Stewart in the 1969 British Grand Prix remains a highlight of my F1 interest and the talent those two showed that day , to me , indicated that provided he had a reliable car he and Stewart would dominate that era . The racing would have been amazing!
His battle with Jackie Stewart in the 1969 British Grand Prix remains a highlight of my F1 interest and the talent those two showed that day , to me , indicated that provided he had a reliable car he and Stewart would dominate that era . The racing would have been amazing!
..to the extent that Rindt reverted to an open face helmet when he raced (and won) at Clermont Ferrand in 1970. This helped his sickness but gave less protection against the sharp flint stones that littered the circuit edges.
Rindt’s victory came at the cost of a facial laceration that needed suturing when a flicked-up stone hit him square on. Helmut Marko in his BRM was less lucky at the same venue 2 years later - losing an eye in a similar incident.
Rindt’s victory came at the cost of a facial laceration that needed suturing when a flicked-up stone hit him square on. Helmut Marko in his BRM was less lucky at the same venue 2 years later - losing an eye in a similar incident.
Edited by moffspeed on Wednesday 6th October 20:11
He was best friends with Red Bull adviser Helmut Marko. These old guys were once young guys.
Died driving a car with the wings off for some reason. Apparently it was his idea though without him around its a bit fishy
as all these teams played with their drivers lives with their experiments and new designs.
Died driving a car with the wings off for some reason. Apparently it was his idea though without him around its a bit fishy
as all these teams played with their drivers lives with their experiments and new designs.
Fundoreen said:
He was best friends with Red Bull adviser Helmut Marko. These old guys were once young guys.
Died driving a car with the wings off for some reason. Apparently it was his idea though without him around its a bit fishy
as all these teams played with their drivers lives with their experiments and new designs.
The often took the wings off at Monza as this was still pre-chicane Monza. The new for 1970 Lotus 72 wasn't working for Jochen there although he'd won 4 races in the car that year he wanted to use the old Lotus 49c which he had used to win in Monaco but he went out with the new car putting in a time that would have put him 12th on the grid in the wingless 72. A car that had many revolutionary design features such as inboard front disc brakes which used a shaft to the wheel, a shaft that would ultimately fail on the approach to the Parabolica.Died driving a car with the wings off for some reason. Apparently it was his idea though without him around its a bit fishy
as all these teams played with their drivers lives with their experiments and new designs.
FourWheelDrift said:
The often took the wings off at Monza as this was still pre-chicane Monza. The new for 1970 Lotus 72 wasn't working for Jochen there although he'd won 4 races in the car that year he wanted to use the old Lotus 49c which he had used to win in Monaco but he went out with the new car putting in a time that would have put him 12th on the grid in the wingless 72. A car that had many revolutionary design features such as inboard front disc brakes which used a shaft to the wheel, a shaft that would ultimately fail on the approach to the Parabolica.
There a twist to the tale too. Rindt was supposed to be driving a brand new 72 chassis that weekend, and rookie teammate Fittipaldi was sent out to shake it down for him. Unfortunately, Emmo swiftly pranged it. Chapman was furious, and whilst it was being repaired in the pits Rindt was sent out in the older 72 chassis - the car in which his fatal accident then occurred when the brake shaft snapped.
In later years Fittipaldi stated that it's one of his life's most enormous what if moments. Had he not damaged Rindt's car earlier in the day, he would have been the one driving the death car in anger. Would he have crashed in the same way as Rindt? Would he have survived anyway?
ChemicalChaos said:
FourWheelDrift said:
The often took the wings off at Monza as this was still pre-chicane Monza. The new for 1970 Lotus 72 wasn't working for Jochen there although he'd won 4 races in the car that year he wanted to use the old Lotus 49c which he had used to win in Monaco but he went out with the new car putting in a time that would have put him 12th on the grid in the wingless 72. A car that had many revolutionary design features such as inboard front disc brakes which used a shaft to the wheel, a shaft that would ultimately fail on the approach to the Parabolica.
There a twist to the tale too. Rindt was supposed to be driving a brand new 72 chassis that weekend, and rookie teammate Fittipaldi was sent out to shake it down for him. Unfortunately, Emmo swiftly pranged it. Chapman was furious, and whilst it was being repaired in the pits Rindt was sent out in the older 72 chassis - the car in which his fatal accident then occurred when the brake shaft snapped.
In later years Fittipaldi stated that it's one of his life's most enormous what if moments. Had he not damaged Rindt's car earlier in the day, he would have been the one driving the death car in anger. Would he have crashed in the same way as Rindt? Would he have survived anyway?
Fundoreen said:
He was best friends with Red Bull adviser Helmut Marko. These old guys were once young guys.
Died driving a car with the wings off for some reason. Apparently it was his idea though without him around its a bit fishy
as all these teams played with their drivers lives with their experiments and new designs.
Stewart qualified his March for the same race without wings, after Rindts death. Died driving a car with the wings off for some reason. Apparently it was his idea though without him around its a bit fishy
as all these teams played with their drivers lives with their experiments and new designs.
SJR said:
I think you will find that Rindt's Lotus team mate on the fateful day at Monza was the late John Miles who was not only a very skilled engineer but later became a well regarded journalist.
https://humansideofracing.com/portraits/john-miles...
Gold Leaf Team Lotus had 3 cars (drivers) at Monza, Rindt, Miles and Fittipaldi.https://humansideofracing.com/portraits/john-miles...
Eric Mc said:
cgt2 said:
Sadly only one posthumous championship.
That sounds like you would have preferred if there had been a few more.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff