Serious Q: Is the upcoming GT3 RS too ugly for you to buy?
Serious Q: Is the upcoming GT3 RS too ugly for you to buy?
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RDMcG

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20,503 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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There is a lot of discussion about the massive rear wing and extreme aero.. and I see many people opting for touring rather than winged cars these days.
There will be no touring RS.

As I see it, it is indeed ugly..there is no grace to the thing and it is a long way from the classic simplicity of the original 911.

I accept that.

I will still likely buy it, though probably pretty much track-only. It just seems too OTT to actually drive in on the street. I have earlier RS cars and they do not seem too excessive for road use.

Maybe we will all get used to it, the way people are now accepting the giant BMW nostrils, SUV Coupes and all sorts of other aesthetic travesties and it will just become more normal.

My curiosity is whether others are going to use it as a road car.

MDL111

8,524 posts

200 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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i don't think it is ugly, it is purposeful - and for a car like a new RS/their pinnacle road legal track car that should see plenty of track use, give me as much aero etc as Porsche think is necessary to make it the best/fastest possible. Having said that, I think most winged Porsches are not exactly "pretty" cars.

I doubt I will buy one though given I am bored of modern cars (and dare I say it more and more bored with cars and driving in general), so not the target audience

TDT

6,122 posts

142 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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MDL111 said:
i don't think it is ugly, it is purposeful - and for a car like a new RS/their pinnacle road legal track car that should see plenty of track use, give me as much aero etc as Porsche think is necessary to make it the best/fastest possible. Having said that, I think most winged Porsches are not exactly "pretty" cars.
This… 100%.

I also think that whether they admit it or not, Porsche saw what Mercedes-AMG did with the GT-Black Series, and thought ‘well if they can get away with that… game on’. Not a direct response because obviously they have their own product development plan, but just a peep over the fence.

DavidLankaster

17 posts

54 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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every one who gets offered a slot will buy one it's that simple, there is £100k in it for them !!

The ring time will blow people away when it smashes the AMG back series car.

Be a bargain price vs AMG and faster, what's not to like ?

Swan song car for ICE.


To cap off the new RS , people spend £230k on a 991.2 RS and then £55k on a MR setup totaling £285k and the new RS will piss on it out the box in a big way cira 14 seconds faster on the ring in fact !!!
Active aero front and rear, the 4.2 engine and **** Bhp, not to mention the PH show off factor of having one unused sat in their climate control garage !
A free car to track if you so wish. EVERY one wants a free car to drive.

APOLO1

5,375 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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This reminds me of the SENNA when it came out and how its looks divided opinions,until the lap times started to roll in. No doubt will be the class leader in its sector.

CocoUK

1,056 posts

205 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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I’ve found the 992 GT3 bloody terrible, especially the rear. The side profile is nice, as always with the 911. I’ll also add it is better in the metal(plastic) than in pictures.

Modern RS on the road in the World today - ‘looks a bit Lamborghini’...

But one shouldn’t care of my thoughts or others - enjoy!

Unknown_User

7,150 posts

115 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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At the risk of getting flamed here but may I politely ask RDmcG how old you are?

Maybe there is a younger demographic wanting the bolder visuals that the new GT3 RS offers. Porsche marketing have probably looked into this and decided that's the direction they need make to continue future sales of Porsche GT products are at the top of the aspirational shopping list of a younger wealthier consumer of Porsche GT products, especially as future technology is introduced.

Maxym

2,783 posts

259 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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The 992 isn't a looker, full stop.

franki68

11,434 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Maxym said:
The 992 isn't a looker, full stop.
I like the standard cars,they have a good presence,I am really struggling with the gt3 looks though,the rear and that black plastic front bit (although my friend sent me a pic of a silver car that had the front plastic in the body colour and that looked even worse ).


Cheib

25,053 posts

198 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Unknown_User said:
At the risk of getting flamed here but may I politely ask RDmcG how old you are?

Maybe there is a younger demographic wanting the bolder visuals that the new GT3 RS offers. Porsche marketing have probably looked into this and decided that's the direction they need make to continue future sales of Porsche GT products are at the top of the aspirational shopping list of a younger wealthier consumer of Porsche GT products, especially as future technology is introduced.
I don’t think it is that. 992 GT3 basically has the same engine as the 991.2 GT3 so Porsche has had to get more aggressive with suspension and aero to show a demonstrable difference in performance i.e. Ring lap time. That’s meant the RS has had to go even further down that route….hence the absolutely farkin massive wing on the RS.

To answer the OP’s question If you use it as intended which you do then buy it and enjoy it and don’t worry what it looks like. If you aren’t like the OP and buying it to drive to the pub I think it’s a bit of shocker.

Buffalo Girls

292 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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The prototypes have lots of disguise still on them, including the wing. It’ll be interesting to see how good it really looks when it’s unveiled

RDMcG

Original Poster:

20,503 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Unknown_User said:
At the risk of getting flamed here but may I politely ask RDmcG how old you are?

Maybe there is a younger demographic wanting the bolder visuals that the new GT3 RS offers. Porsche marketing have probably looked into this and decided that's the direction they need make to continue future sales of Porsche GT products are at the top of the aspirational shopping list of a younger wealthier consumer of Porsche GT products, especially as future technology is introduced.
Not in the least offended! Am 73 and this will be my fourth RS. Still have the 997.1 and 991.1 in the garage and they get tracked regularly.

Obviously age is an issue in that this will be my last RS. Of course the 992 series will likely be the last RS anyway so might as well do it.

av185

20,464 posts

150 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Blame the all important Asian markets for ott and aggressive styling cues resulting in the increasingly fugly front end styling evidenced in the latest gopping BMW Audi and Merc designs.

Ugly and aggressive sells and unfortunately recent Porsche design appears to encompass this.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

125 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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The final production version will look a whole lot better than the camouflaged ones we see being tested around the 'ring. I've gone right off the Touring but instead prefer the 992RS. I couldn't swap my current RS for a Touring but would for the new RS.

Melvynr

1,404 posts

74 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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RDMcG said:
Not in the least offended! Am 73 and this will be my fourth RS. Still have the 997.1 and 991.1 in the garage and they get tracked regularly.

Obviously age is an issue in that this will be my last RS. Of course the 992 series will likely be the last RS anyway so might as well do it.
Brilliant and good on you, keep enjoying your motors.

RDMcG

Original Poster:

20,503 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Melvynr said:
Brilliant and good on you, keep enjoying your motors.
I intend to -many thankssmile
. I am very well aware that this stuff stops at some stage with advancing age. I expect that the 992 will be my last RS for Spa and the NS, but will add Monza as I have never run it. Have driven reasonably quick cars for decades and not that interested in the true exotics. Porsches are fairly reliable and tough which is good enough for me.

I do have a sense of the ICE era ending though so would not want to miss the closing chapters of the RS story which was glorious for me personally.

Many adventures with these cars, so ugly or not, I will get it. I have never flipped cars or any of that stuff, and do not care what happens to them in the future...I expect I will simply let them go when I can no longer use them properly. No regrets...I know that I have been very lucky to have been able to do this stuff for decades and especially at this age, and maybe the cars will end up with people who have the same idea...tough cars for proper use, fit for purpose, and to Hell with the resale value.

av185

20,464 posts

150 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Good for you RDMG.

Always enjoy reading your posts.

julian987R

6,840 posts

82 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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franki68 said:
Maxym said:
The 992 isn't a looker, full stop.
I like the standard cars,they have a good presence,I am really struggling with the gt3 looks though,the rear and that black plastic front bit (although my friend sent me a pic of a silver car that had the front plastic in the body colour and that looked even worse ).
Totally agree. That slab of plastic looks terrible and when it is body coloured it looks like an air conditioning unit whacked on the front.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

125 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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The new 992GTS looks much better than any 992GT3 even the Touring IMO.

julian987R

6,840 posts

82 months

Wednesday 29th September 2021
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Taffy66 said:
The new 992GTS looks much better than any 992GT3 even the Touring IMO.
Totally agree.