BTCC at Goodwood: Could this happen

BTCC at Goodwood: Could this happen

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Milkyway63

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675 posts

57 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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Like a lot of us, I would love to see the TOCA package racing at Goodwood.

The revival is on...why oh why can’t it happen.

Do you think that we will ever see it?
( Praying)



Edited by Milkyway63 on Sunday 19th September 10:44

ApexCult

4,922 posts

159 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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I think Chicane would be a little tight for BTCC driving!

mmm-five

11,396 posts

290 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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ApexCult said:
I think Chicane would be a little tight for BTCC driving!
Not after the first lap wink

Milkyway63

Original Poster:

675 posts

57 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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mmm-five said:
ApexCult said:
I think Chicane would be a little tight for BTCC driving!
Not after the first lap wink
Replace it with the original ‘wicker’
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=goodwood+chicane...


Edited by Milkyway63 on Sunday 19th September 10:28

ecsrobin

17,753 posts

171 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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Goodwood is a Grade 4 Historic circuit from the FIA list so cannot happen https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/circuits_f...

I imagine the safety fencing would have to change to allow it.

ecsrobin

17,753 posts

171 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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Milkyway63 said:
mmm-five said:
ApexCult said:
I think Chicane would be a little tight for BTCC driving!
Not after the first lap wink
Replace it with the original ‘wicker’
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=goodwood+chicane...

Edited by Milkyway63 on Sunday 19th September 10:24
This year they’ve changed from the polystyrene chicane to water bucket chicane I was quite surprised yesterday when a mini hit it and came out damaged!

thegreenhell

16,854 posts

225 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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The circuit is only allowed a limited number of racing days on its permit from the local council, so they would have to give up either the Member's Meeting or Revival if they wanted to allow a different race meeting to take place. In short, it will never happen.

Milkyway63

Original Poster:

675 posts

57 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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thegreenhell said:
The circuit is only allowed a limited number of racing days on its permit from the local council, so they would have to give up either the Member's Meeting or Revival if they wanted to allow a different race meeting to take place. In short, it will never happen.
Yes, I knew that there were local limitations involved.
Such a shame... waste of a great Circuit.
( I think they like their revivals...)

Milkyway63

Original Poster:

675 posts

57 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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ApexCult said:
I think Chicane would be a little tight for BTCC driving!
The ‘Yank Tanks’ seem to be able to negotiate it... & they are worth two BTCC cars each.

thegreenhell

16,854 posts

225 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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Milkyway63 said:
ApexCult said:
I think Chicane would be a little tight for BTCC driving!
The ‘Yank Tanks’ seem to be able to negotiate it... & they are worth two BTCC cars each.
BTCC would attempt to go through it three-abreast on the first lap...

The other thing is the pitlane is not suited to modern racing, so that would all have to be knocked down and rebuilt.

agent006

12,058 posts

270 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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New circuits have been asked about before but Alan Gow's line is that they already use all the UK circuits that are suitable. Paddock space has been mentioned as one of the main limitations.

Personally I'd love two Silverstone rounds, one on the 'old' international layout and the other run from the new pitlane on the short layout that end. At the very least have the double round rotated each year rather than just two Thruxton rounds like it has been since Rockingham closed.

Milkyway63

Original Poster:

675 posts

57 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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agent006 said:
New circuits have been asked about before but Alan Gow's line is that they already use all the UK circuits that are suitable. Paddock space has been mentioned as one of the main limitations.

Personally I'd love two Silverstone rounds, one on the 'old' international layout and the other run from the new pitlane on the short layout that end. At the very least have the double round rotated each year rather than just two Thruxton rounds like it has been since Rockingham closed.
Such a shame that track in Wales isn’t going ahead now either.
Would have been a true British championship then.

agent006

12,058 posts

270 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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Wasn't that going to be nestled right under the nose of a few tens of thousand nimbys? I remember thinking the chance of any significant race calendar there being pretty slim.

Anglesey would be a great addition to the calendar.

Milkyway63

Original Poster:

675 posts

57 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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agent006 said:
Wasn't that going to be nestled right under the nose of a few tens of thousand nimbys? I remember thinking the chance of any significant race calendar there being pretty slim.

Anglesey would be a great addition to the calendar.
Quite a few tracks to choose from... it’s councils / logistics
that get in the way.

Is it a few residents at Brands Hatch that complain... the track was there first though.

This was proposed for Brands Hatch...
https://images.app.goo.gl/8ML4aYCEFqdFFDr27

Or

https://images.app.goo.gl/iQVXC54BN1Y4WD919


Edited by Milkyway63 on Sunday 19th September 20:14

ApexCult

4,922 posts

159 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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thegreenhell said:
Milkyway63 said:
ApexCult said:
I think Chicane would be a little tight for BTCC driving!
The ‘Yank Tanks’ seem to be able to negotiate it... & they are worth two BTCC cars each.
BTCC would attempt to go through it three-abreast on the first lap...
Exactly, the cars themselves would fit fine. The drivers less so!! laugh

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

52 months

Sunday 19th September 2021
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No chance and I highly doubt March would want it there, it makes a colossal amount from the Revival I would imagine, and is used a lot for filming, testing, the track would need to be changed a lot for modern BTCC you might aswell ask if it could go to Cadwell quite honestly, you might have more chance!

aeropilot

36,241 posts

233 months

Friday 24th September 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
No chance and I highly doubt March would want it there, it makes a colossal amount from the Revival I would imagine, and is used a lot for filming, testing, the track would need to be changed a lot for modern BTCC you might aswell ask if it could go to Cadwell quite honestly, you might have more chance!
This.
The track would be ruined by the changes required....and March wouldn't want to ruin Revival (and its bad enough that they keep asking the punters about extending to post '66 stuff, which is the last thing the Revival needs...IMHO)

You have the Members meet plus Sillystone Classic for that stuff.


bigbadbikercats

635 posts

214 months

Monday 27th September 2021
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Milkyway63 said:
agent006 said:
Wasn't that going to be nestled right under the nose of a few tens of thousand nimbys? I remember thinking the chance of any significant race calendar there being pretty slim.

Anglesey would be a great addition to the calendar.
Quite a few tracks to choose from... it’s councils / logistics
that get in the way.

Is it a few residents at Brands Hatch that complain... the track was there first though.

This was proposed for Brands Hatch...
https://images.app.goo.gl/8ML4aYCEFqdFFDr27

Or

https://images.app.goo.gl/iQVXC54BN1Y4WD919


Edited by Milkyway63 on Sunday 19th September 20:14
Quite a lot of people who were already using Brands Hatch on a regular basis objected back in the ‘90s when this last came up on the basis that it was going to totally change the character of a venue we loved, the changes added no value for those of us using the place for club events and the like (at the time I was racing ‘bikes with BMCRC) for the other 51 weekends of the year, and that the astronomical costs represented a huge gamble with the continued existence of the venue in any form potentially at risk.

So no, not just NIMBYs this time…

coppice

8,851 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th September 2021
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Having been to Revival and Members' Meetings I am more than happy with their current fare thanks. I watch BTCC now and again, last time a couple of weeks ago and so far as dull sounding, overhyped and near spec racing goes it's fine. And that is the problem . Not to mention the gazebo dwelling hordes . I am not over keen on the pink trousered Hoorays at the Revival , but at least they don't drop as much litter

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,638 posts

229 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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I was thinking about this the other day ( well thinking about the tracks BTCC could use)

Anglesey would be good, as would kirkistown in NI
I'd like them to run a temporary airport circuit like Indycar do at Cleveland but at Helston airfield in Cornwall.
GP circuit at Silverstone rather than the national
I'd bin off the Brands Indy.
A street should in the Uk should also happen, a lot less logistics than for a GP. But which town? Do we go back to Birmingham or my personal favourite option, Belfast for a blast around the A2, Ann Street. Middle path street ( we could bin of kirkistown in this case)
Then to top it off, an away trip to Spa.

that should sort it.

Come on GOW, chop chop.