Who is the best: Race v Podiums (%)

[Milkyway63]

The figures are taken from their WIKI page...
Nothing below 20%...
Denotes current driver: #

Sir Lewis Hamilton: 280 / 175..........62.5 #

Alain Prost: 199 / 106.... .................53.20
Alberto Ascari: 32 / 17.....................53.12
Michael Schumacher: 306 / 155..... 50.60

Ayrton Senna: 161 / 80....................49.6
Fangio: 51 / 24.................................47.05
Sebastian Vettel: 271 / 122..............45.01 #
Jim Clark : 72 / 32............................44.44
Sir Jackie Stewart: 99 / 43...............43.43
Mike Hawthorn; 45 / 18....................40.00

Max Verstappen: 133 / 52................39.09 #
Valtteri Bottas: 170 / 64....................37.64 #
Damon Hill: 115 / 42.........................36.52
Sir Stirling Moss: 66 / 24................. 36.36
Nigel Mansell: 187 / 59.....................32.50
Juan Pablo Montoya: 94 / 30............31.91
Mika Hakkinen: 161 / 51...................31.67
Niki Lauda: 171 / 54.........................31.57
Kimi Räikkönen: 341 / 103...............30.20#

Fernando Alonso: 325 / 97.............29.80 #
Jody Scheckter: 112 / 33................29,46 =
Denny Hulme: 112 / 33...................29.46 =
Nelson Piquet: 204 / 60..................29.40
Francois Cevert: 46 / 13.................28.26
Nico Rosberg: 206 / 57...................27.66
David Coulthard: 246 / 62...............25.20
James Hunt: 92 / 23.......................25.00
Sir Jack Brabham: 126 / 31............24.60
Emerson Fittipaldi: 144 / 35............24.30
Gerhard Berger: 210 / 48................22.85
Sir John Surtees: 111 / 24...............21.62
Rubens Barrichello: 322 / 68..........21.10
Graham Hill: 176 / 36.....................20.45
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Mark Webber: 215 / 68...................19.53
( “ Not bad for a number two”)

Edited by Milkyway63 on Saturday 18th September 23:55

Edited by Milkyway63 on Tuesday 21st September 02:29

[MustangGT]

Oh dear, you've gone and done it! Yet another statistic that shows Lewis in a good light. Wait for the haters.......

[Milkyway63]

MustangGT said:

Oh dear, you've gone and done it! Yet another statistic that shows Lewis in a good light. Wait for the haters.......

Sorry.... still trying to find a better one (it’s only numbers)
(Won’t give up).
Ps: Not a LH lover at all.

[cgt2]

Surprised not to see Fangio on the list

[Milkyway63]

cgt2 said:

Surprised not to see Fangio on the list

Just added... Bugger, thought he’d be the one to topple LH.

Edited by Milkyway63 on Thursday 16th September 13:56

[Milkyway63]

Scarperia said:

Why have you put Fangio in inverted commas ? ,it's his actual name

No reason really... just everybody just says FANGIO.
Rarely Juan Manuel.
Corrected.

[Steamer]

MustangGT said:

Oh dear, you've gone and done it! Yet another statistic that shows Lewis in a good light. Wait for the haters.......

Didn't call him Sir though

[Milkyway63]

Steamer said:

MustangGT said:

Oh dear, you've gone and done it! Yet another statistic that shows Lewis in a good light. Wait for the haters.......

Didn't call him Sir though

Is it official yet...

[cgt2]

Milkyway63 said:

Is it official yet...

MBE and Knighthood...

[glazbagun]

Needs to be races completed not started. Reliability has improved considerably ober the years.

[Milkyway63]

glazbagun said:

Needs to be races completed not started. Reliability has improved considerably ober the years.

True.. trying to keep it simple
( will get there... eventually)

[Jasandjules]

Whilst I do think Lewis is the best driver of his generation, I don't think stats like this are fair for a number of reasons.

Firstly, the reliability of cars these days is simply not comparable to historical cars.
Secondly, the drivers don't always have the best cars (I know there is an argument that the best drivers find their way into the best cars etc).

Really and I know it is an impossible task, but the list I would want to see is podiums in a car that should not have been on the podium.........

[kambites]

If nothing else, that list is deeply unfair to Verstappen (and probably others) because he's spent much of his career in the clear second best car.

[Milkyway63]

Jasandjules said:

Whilst I do think Lewis is the best driver of his generation, I don't think stats like this are fair for a number of reasons.

Firstly, the reliability of cars these days is simply not comparable to historical cars.
Secondly, the drivers don't always have the best cars (I know there is an argument that the best drivers find their way into the best cars etc).

Really and I know it is an impossible task, but the list I would want to see is podiums in a car that should not have been on the podium.........

That could be a interesting post... minefield though.

[Milkyway63]

kambites said:

If nothing else, that list is deeply unfair to Verstappen (and probably others) because he's spent much of his career in the clear second best car.

I could just lose... you know who.
( see if anybody notices)

[Adrian W]

Is there a similar wiki that shows the fastest cars?

[MontyPythonX]

kambites said:

If nothing else, that list is deeply unfair to Verstappen (and probably others) because he's spent much of his career in the clear second best car.

You could say that about hundreds of drivers though, couldn't you?

[cgt2]

Winners in a midfield car - Panis, Vettel, Gasly, Maldonado, Ocon, Herbert (Stewart)

[kambites]

MontyPythonX said:

kambites said:

If nothing else, that list is deeply unfair to Verstappen (and probably others) because he's spent much of his career in the clear second best car.

You could say that about hundreds of drivers though, couldn't you?

Yes, which is why I said "and probably others". Verstappen was just the one who sprung to mind because he's been in that position most recently.

[glazbagun]

This is one of my favourite statistical attempts, although it appears to have been updated since I last read it. One of my favourite stats is of Jim Clark:

site said:

Clark’s streak from 1963 to 1965 was a demonstration of his complete superiority over the competition. Of the 29 championship races he started in this period, he either experienced mechanical issues (13 races), in some cases causing a DNF, or he won (16 races). In the 16 races that he won, his average lead over 2nd place at the checkered flag was 58 seconds. He amassed a total of 159 points to his works-team teammates’ collective 28 points.

https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2019/11/22/the-f1metrics-top-100/