Beating chavs - another approach
Beating chavs - another approach
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shadowninja

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80,056 posts

311 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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We know how much we dislike work-shy, spongeing, low life chavs who take no greater pleasure than dragging their keys along the length of your pride and joy. I've been trying to think of a way of improving the situation in the long term by trying to encourage such people to strive for something better, but have been scratching my head a lot.

Last night I came across this site: http://www.yearofthevolunteer.co.uk/

I found a few volunteer adverts asking for people to work with teenagers in mentoring roles. Do you think it's worth my time or will it be spent on kids who already know it takes hard work to be successful in life?

shirepro

11,838 posts

264 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Good on ya mate! You don't just whinge, you do something. I guess you can select the kind of scheme you want to be involved in. I suspect Chavsters might opt out in favour of a sly joint but most of these schemes I have had contact with tend to be kids who need a bit more support and advice because of the problems others have imposed on them. Won't be easy. Bit like a teacher doing their bit for 6 hours and then turning them back over to the parents and siblings for the other 18.

Unless of course this is a PH spoof, in which case I also admire you for trying to pull it off!

shadowninja

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80,056 posts

311 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Nah, I'm serious about giving it a go. Just wondering whether it will really make a difference.

lunarscope

2,901 posts

271 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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I'd expect it to make a difference to those kids who are prepared to be 'improved'. Your help could prevent someone from stepping over the line into full-on ASBO-seeker.
Unfortunately, the real (potential) scum aren't interested in this sort of thing - 'joining' isn't their thing; it's not cool.

WingChunDave

2,253 posts

261 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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shadowninja said:

Beating chavs - another approach


I thought you meant sneaking up on them from behind, pulling the burberry caps over their eyes and then giving them a beating, rather than the head on approach.

Sounds like a worthy cause if you wish to attempt it. The cynical part of me thinks it may be a bit like swimming against the tide but good luck to you mate and I hope you can make a difference.

turbobloke

117,171 posts

289 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Yes fair play to you. Then the cynical side of the force comes along with that joke about how many psychologists does it take to change a light bulb, none because the bulb has got to change itself first.

Most of the pondlife we're talking about here don't do what they do because they're misguided souls with no money and no brains and no job due to that evil thing called society. There are lots of poor thick unemployed folk but they don't all go around assaulting people randomly or keying sportscars. When we make that assumption we insult the vast numbers of people who are the salt of the earth in spite of not being Einstein or having a well paid job or a perfect upbringing. They'll take what comes along and work with nobility in any job to keep themselves independent at whatever level they can manage.

The scum of the earth are quite knowingly lazy, irresponsible, antisocial, violent and destructive and aren't interested in namby pamby stuff like "inclusion" as they take great pride in being outcast members of the underclass. They know it;s not worth working in any job when they can get benefits from BLiar and nick what they can't afford, while damaging others' property in envy attacks.

Like those in need of a permanent safety net due to mental or physical health problems, the salt of the earth deserve all the help we can give when they hit hard times. The scum deserve lengthy periods of stripey daylight and should get more of it. If there was a clear distinction in the minds of the authorities, I suspect more people would volunteer.

liszt

4,337 posts

299 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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I know a couple of people who volunteer for "Big Brother" type activities.

Normally involves taking a couple of teenagers to the cinema then for a burger and a chat.

They have done it for various reasons, butit seems to make a small difference to the kids. Shows them that there is more to life than their immediate environs.

Give it a go.

turbobloke

117,171 posts

289 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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As long as a volunteer doesn't become the human equivalent of the safari they gave to that prolific teen burglar, or the CD's and designer trainers BLiar wants to give to chavs on the back of our taxes, fairynuff.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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I'd say go for it. Volunteer work gives a great deal of satisfaction. Personally I channel my "charitable" hours into road safety via my chosen means...but you've got to volunteer for something that matters to *you* and that you have some aptitude for...

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Sounds interesting. I volunteered for a local mentoring scheme last year but was too young apparently (25). Might try again - it can't hurt.

My dad's G/F has had involvement in similar schemes in East London & the concensus is that all parties benefit.

shadowninja

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80,056 posts

311 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Thanks for the replies.

The post just says "To develop mentoring relationships with young people (16+) to help them with education, training and employment."

I've done mentoring and training in the workplace for graduates, so in a way it's an extension of what I have done in the past.

I did wonder whether the sort of youths who were open to such activities would be different to those who ended up in trouble, but as someone posted, if it stops someone on the border of it all then that would be great.

Gonna apply this evening!

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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shadowninja said:
Thanks for the replies.

The post just says "To develop mentoring relationships with young people (16+) to help them with education, training and employment."

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I did wonder whether the sort of youths who were open to such activities would be different to those who ended up in trouble, but as someone posted, if it stops someone on the border of it all then that would be great.


The scheme I tried to help on apparently took those who were "at risk" - basically low level scroteish behaviour, but with a semblance of intelligence. They were keen to get male volunteers to work with kids who had no father figure at home - mainly to give them something to relate too that wasn't a figure of authority or useless "celebrity".

Hope it goes well!