4K or 8K - lets talk tech

[anonymous-user]

Hi all

Like many I'm after a new TV but don't know where the true speed lies; do you

1st question : If lets say BT is my ISP and in my local area is Fibre and this is what I've signed up for yet my end of the service cable is copper then technically I have a great speed BUT its not 'true' fibre; right or wrong?

If the above is right, then no matter what tech I use it's always going to be limited by the 'copper part' of the jigsaw?
If the above is wrong, then please educate me

2nd question : If I were to buy a 4k and 8k tv and played a live football match via a 4k android box then both tv's would be the same to watch as the 8k tv would be governed by the android box; right or wrong?

If the 2nd question is right and I'm governed to 4k because of my box an 8k tv wouldn't make any difference?
If the 2nd question is wrong, please educate me

Please bear with me on my grammar and the way I've posed the questions but I'm confused with the choices available in the tv marketplace and as above I have fibre broadband yet copper into my house and a 4k android box which the way I see it the fundamental factors on my viewing experience

Thanks in advance for your help

[Phunk]

1st question: You’ll have fibre to the cabinet (FTTC) fibre.

2nd question: You’re 8k TV will likely upscale the 4k footage. Will it look better with a internet stream - no? With a full fat 4K Blueray - possibly.

[LeoSayer]

mgsontour said:

1st question : If lets say BT is my ISP and in my local area is Fibre and this is what I've signed up for yet my end of the service cable is copper then technically I have a great speed BUT its not 'true' fibre; right or wrong?

If the above is right, then no matter what tech I use it's always going to be limited by the 'copper part' of the jigsaw?
If the above is wrong, then please educate me

Correct.
Greater speeds are possible with FTTP (fibre to the premises) than FTTC (fibre to the cabinet). But if you only need (say) 50mbps then FTTC can usually deliver that.

mgsontour said:

2nd question : If I were to buy a 4k and 8k tv and played a live football match via a 4k android box then both tv's would be the same to watch as the 8k tv would be governed by the android box; right or wrong?

If the 2nd question is right and I'm governed to 4k because of my box an 8k tv wouldn't make any difference?
If the 2nd question is wrong, please educate me

All other things being equal, correct. But all other things are rarely equal. The android box or the 8K TV will have to upscale the picture to 8k. Each TV will have it's own software to process the picture and each TV will have it's own panel construction.

The only way to see if the picture is the same to you is to compare side by side.

[anonymous-user]

Phunk said:

1st question: You’ll have fibre to the cabinet (FTTC) fibre.

2nd question: You’re 8k TV will likely upscale the 4k footage. Will it look better with a internet stream - no? With a full fat 4K Blueray - possibly.

Thanks, so given my position a 4k tv would suffice and then my understanding would be to choose QLED over OLED over LED; right but are there any other 'important' differences to consider? Cheers

[anonymous-user]

LeoSayer said:

All other things being equal, correct. But all other things are rarely equal. The android box or the 8K TV will have to upscale the picture to 8k. Each TV will have it's own software to process the picture and each TV will have it's own panel construction.

The only way to see if the picture is the same to you is to compare side by side.

Thanks, so given my position a 4k tv would suffice and then my understanding would be to choose QLED over OLED over LED; right but are there any other 'important' differences to consider? Cheers

[LeoSayer]

In summary,

OLEDs tend to have better viewing angles ie. no drop in picture quality when viewed at an angle and are better at handling darker scenes and black eg. starry background on a sci-fi film.

QLEDs tend to have better brightness levels - which might be important if your tv will go in a conservatory.

I bought an LG OLED last year to replace an aging Panasonic Plasma. The picture quality on the LG is sublime on anything from SD, HD, Netflix, Sky, Blu Ray, DVD etc. The LG goes far brighter than the old Plasma and is plenty bright enough for my living room.

[markiii]

Since I'm not aware of any 8k content 4k TV should be fine

[SCEtoAUX]

HD was a revelation once. 8K is marketing because nobody wanted 3D.

[untakenname]

As above there's no point in being an early adopter of 8k as there's not the source footage to support it yet and by the time it's there the price will have dropped markedly.
I've got an OLED TV and the picture quality is sublime but reflections from light sources are a pain at times.

[goldieandblackie]

8K tv is old news check this 16K tv out.
https://robbreport.com/gear/tvs/sony-16k-crystal-l...

[goldieandblackie]

Yours for a cool $5 million dollars

[triggerhappy21]

I saw them recently review a 4k Vs 8k TV on The Gadget Show.

Obviously the 8k footage was reviewed as a significant improvement over the 4k.

Interestingly though, the upscaled SD and HD footage they said looked much better on the 4k than the 8k TV. The conclusion was that the processing required to upscale to 8k was so much more intensive, the picture ended up looking lower quality than the 4k picture.

That would be a bummer considering most footage I'd watch would be upscaled SD or HD. Spending all that money & having a s**tter picture.

[anonymous-user]

Good comments, thank you all but it's a minefield out there to choose so will put this challenge to you all if your up for it. . . .

TV has to go on a swivel bracket so guess no bigger than 48" -ish

I want freeview or freesat

I stream live sports and movies

Which TV offers the best value for money?

Thanks for all your help so far

[HappyClappy]

I find LGs slow and buggy when using freesat/view, fine if using sky or virgin etc, but if you rely on the internal tuner the channel guide is painfully slow.

Also all the Rakuten, Prime and Netflix buttons on the controller do my nut in if you accidentally press them as it’s so slow to cancel and get back to live tv.

Nice picture but complete ste software.

[anonymous-user]

HappyClappy said:

I find LGs slow and buggy when using freesat/view, fine if using sky or virgin etc, but if you rely on the internal tuner the channel guide is painfully slow.

Also all the Rakuten, Prime and Netflix buttons on the controller do my nut in if you accidentally press them as it’s so slow to cancel and get back to live tv.

Nice picture but complete ste software.

LG seems out of the running then; cheers

[LeoSayer]

There are a limited number of 48" OLEDs available. Here's a recent review of all of them:

https://www.techradar.com/uk/best/48-inch-oled-tv

[markiii]

triggerhappy21 said:

I saw them recently review a 4k Vs 8k TV on The Gadget Show.

Obviously the 8k footage was reviewed as a significant improvement over the 4k.

Interestingly though, the upscaled SD and HD footage they said looked much better on the 4k than the 8k TV. The conclusion was that the processing required to upscale to 8k was so much more intensive, the picture ended up looking lower quality than the 4k picture.

That would be a bummer considering most footage I'd watch would be upscaled SD or HD. Spending all that money & having a s**tter picture.

SD content generally looks belter on a 1080 set rather than 4k as well

[h0b0]

SCEtoAUX said:

HD was a revelation once. 8K is marketing because nobody wanted 3D.

8k cameras were created so editors could digitally zoom in without dipping below 4K and not really with 8k TVs in mind. TV manufacturers need to sell TVs and have been selling pointless specs for some time.

[272BHP]

markiii said:

SD content generally looks belter on a 1080 set rather than 4k as well

Yeah but I think I would rather watch radio than SD.

I find it offensive to look at in this day and age. If content is only available on an SD channel then I will skip it.

[markiii]

True but rules out rewatching classic stuff that never made bluray