2021 Official Hungarian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

[Piginapoke]

We move onto Hungary, a new challenge after Silverstone with both championships finely balanced.

Can we keep this discussion about Hungary please and leave comments about Silverstone in that thread. Let's also try to keep it civil.

Date(s): Friday 30 July 2021 - Sunday 1 August

UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)

All sessions are live on Sky F1; race and Qualifying highlights are on Channel 4:





Live timing for all sessions available here:

https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html

Lap times, PU component use, technical reports and Stewards' decisions for the weekend will appear here:

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-c...

Weather forecast:

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/9fbbeae0976a3...

Tyres:



2020 Race Result:



2020 race highlights:

https://youtu.be/8KhJUWlNnCk

Edited by Piginapoke on Saturday 24th July 09:07

[Sandpit Steve]

Let’s see if we can make this one a 150-page epic thread!

Also to note, this weekend sees a return to the usual race weekend format, after “The Sprint” experiment at the last event.

Probably a track more suited to the Red Bull than the Mercedes. Last year was an intriguing two-stop race, that started on the inters on a drying track, without the weather it’s probably a one-stop.

Memorable even before the start though, when a young Dutchman asked quite a lot of his team, after binning it between the pits and the grid and requiring a couple of suspension arms replacing in very quick time to make the start.

[J6542]

Posted the same in the last thread, but thanks for taking the time to do these every race.
We should all just enjoy the thread and ignore any insulting or troll posts.

If people don’t feel able to discuss your own view without insulting someone then they shouldn’t post.

[Piginapoke]

J6542 said:

Posted the same in the last thread, but thanks for taking the time to do these every race.
We should all just enjoy the thread and ignore any insulting or troll posts.

If people don’t feel able to discuss your own view without insulting someone then they shouldn’t post.

Much appreciated J6542

[Tyre Smoke]

Indeed.

Looking forward to a return to the old format. Agree this should be a Red Bull circuit.

Hard to overtake here if memory serves, so qualifying should be important.

[Deesee]

J6542 said:

Posted the same in the last thread, but thanks for taking the time to do these every race.
We should all just enjoy the thread and ignore any insulting or troll posts.

If people don’t feel able to discuss your own view without insulting someone then they shouldn’t post.

Agreed, this has been a ‘friendly’ thread in the last few years, and more than welcoming for new posters.

There’s more than a few posters who bring a lot to the thread/s let’s not hound them out. For frankly one eyed views.

..

Softer tyres here should suit the Red Bull, Perez in particular..

The Merc and Red Bull are so evenly matched in Quali that Pole will become vitally important on a track which is difficult to overtake.

Hamilton’s after a record 9th win here..

Ferrari should fare well and threaten McLaren for best of the rest.

It’s hard to believe it’s going to be the mid summer break!

[Sandpit Steve]

J6542 said:

Posted the same in the last thread, but thanks for taking the time to do these every race.
We should all just enjoy the thread and ignore any insulting or troll posts.

If people don’t feel able to discuss your own view without insulting someone then they shouldn’t post.

+1

It’s always useful to find all the details on the front page of this thread, especially the session times and the official documents link.

Well done to @piginapoke and the moderators - and yes, don’t feed the trolls.

[Piginapoke]

Sandpit Steve said:

J6542 said:

Posted the same in the last thread, but thanks for taking the time to do these every race.
We should all just enjoy the thread and ignore any insulting or troll posts.

If people don’t feel able to discuss your own view without insulting someone then they shouldn’t post.

+1

It’s always useful to find all the details on the front page of this thread, especially the session times and the official documents link.

Well done to @piginapoke and the moderators - and yes, don’t feed the trolls.

We're generally a good bunch on here and it would be dull if we all thought the same but the last thread was something else

Edited by Piginapoke on Saturday 24th July 10:00

[garythesign]

I would like to thank the OP for the sterling work he has done starting these posts and especially this one as he sounded particularly annoyed at the Silverstone comments.

I don’t post here usually as it can become terribly tribal. I have been watching F1 since the Raymond Baxter days and enjoy reading most of the comments.

[Tyre Smoke]

I could see the way Silverstone was going on Sunday evening. Can't believe it's still rumbling on. Stopped reading or contributing on Sunday.

Anyway, back on topic, I suppose it's a bit early for weather predictions?

I fear the race will be a borefest unless it's wet, or wet/dry. Since I'll (hopefully) be in Kos, it might be difficult to watch unless I can VPN my Sky Go.

[Deesee]

Piginapoke said:

Sandpit Steve said:

J6542 said:

Posted the same in the last thread, but thanks for taking the time to do these every race.
We should all just enjoy the thread and ignore any insulting or troll posts.

If people don’t feel able to discuss your own view without insulting someone then they shouldn’t post.

+1

It’s always useful to find all the details on the front page of this thread, especially the session times and the official documents link.

Well done to @piginapoke and the moderators - and yes, don’t feed the trolls.

We're generally a good bunch on here and it would be dull if we all thought the same but the last thread was something else

Edited by Piginapoke on Saturday 24th July 10:00

We post as one

[M5-911]

Deesee said:

Agreed, this has been a ‘friendly’ thread in the last few years, and more than welcoming for new posters.

There’s more than a few posters who bring a lot to the thread/s let’s not hound them out. For frankly one eyed views.

..

Softer tyres here should suit the Red Bull, Perez in particular..

The Merc and Red Bull are so evenly matched in Quali that Pole will become vitally important on a track which is difficult to overtake.

Hamilton’s after a record 9th win here..

Ferrari should fare well and threaten McLaren for best of the rest.

It’s hard to believe it’s going to be the mid summer break!

If Quali is on soft, their is no match for Redbull.

[Jasandjules]

It will be interesting to see if Mercs new upgrades work here too.. Otherwise I think Red Bull will just walk away.

[Deesee]

M5-911 said:

If Quali is on soft, their is no match for Redbull.

A lot depends on how fast those 3D printers and autoclaves can make all those upgraded parts Max has been running.

& Both teams will need both cars to cover off the opposition as the undercut is very strong here.

The C4 are not a bad tyre for either team.

Low speed corners, mid range tyres.. I’m going Charl for front row.. but the big two should cover off the front & second row.

[Sandpit Steve]

Deesee said:

A lot depends on how fast those 3D printers and autoclaves can make all those upgraded parts Max has been running.

& Both teams will need both cars to cover off the opposition as the undercut is very strong here.

The C4 are not a bad tyre for either team.

Low speed corners, mid range tyres.. I’m going Charl for front row.. but the big two should cover off the front & second row.

Good point about the undercut here: in 2019, Lewis surprised Max with a two-stop from second place, and went past the Dutchman with four laps to go.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jnz-lc9LYgo
Could be a day for either Bottas or Perez to shine in the teamwork role.

Without continuing he previous thread, Max’s car is definitely going to be another factor. There’s clearly going to be very little of the last car carried over, with even some rumours about the PU components not making it, and there were quite a few one-off bits they’ve been testing that hadn’t even made Perez’s car at Silverstone. The carbon shop at MK are all going to be on overtime as we speak!

[Oilchange]

Excellent! Back up and running, this is a perfect online resource to accompany watching the event.
Thanks for sticking at it Piginapoke!

[Exige77]

Thanks Piginapoke

Looking forward to this one !!

[Hungrymc]

Sandpit Steve said:

Deesee said:

A lot depends on how fast those 3D printers and autoclaves can make all those upgraded parts Max has been running.

& Both teams will need both cars to cover off the opposition as the undercut is very strong here.

The C4 are not a bad tyre for either team.

Low speed corners, mid range tyres.. I’m going Charl for front row.. but the big two should cover off the front & second row.

Good point about the undercut here: in 2019, Lewis surprised Max with a two-stop from second place, and went past the Dutchman with four laps to go.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jnz-lc9LYgo
Could be a day for either Bottas or Perez to shine in the teamwork role.

Without continuing he previous thread, Max’s car is definitely going to be another factor. There’s clearly going to be very little of the last car carried over, with even some rumours about the PU components not making it, and there were quite a few one-off bits they’ve been testing that hadn’t even made Perez’s car at Silverstone. The carbon shop at MK are all going to be on overtime as we speak!

I’m sure I’ve read they are trying to save the chassis (sounds unbelievable) ? That would seem to be a massive risk to me as even if it passes the rigidity tests, I’d have thought there every likelihood of some damage even if hard to find. That’s in the realm of drivers feeling something that the engineers find hard to trace… I’d be amazed if the chassis is ok to re-use.

[Teddy Lop]

Deesee said:

A lot depends on how fast those 3D printers and autoclaves can make all those upgraded parts Max has been running.

& Both teams will need both cars to cover off the opposition as the undercut is very strong here.

The C4 are not a bad tyre for either team.

Low speed corners, mid range tyres.. I’m going Charl for front row.. but the big two should cover off the front & second row.

It'll say a lot about where b-spec car Perez is it at if they get all the unobtanium max spec parts ready for Hungary!

[mw88]

After "you know what" at "you know where", it will be interesting to see if either one changes their approach for next weekend.

Verstappen will have a point to prove, and I think Red Bull will try and drive strategy, rather than what happened here a few years ago, and in Barcelona.

Critical weekend for Bottas, if the decision hasn't already been made, it's the last race before the summer break.