Kingdom Vendetta

[anonymous-user]

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I get it's Ti, but is it really worth spending that kind of money on just a frame for a hard tail? I have a custom built hard tail that was over £2k, but they always strike me as a cheaper option. Surely a £1425 frame is going to be nearly £4k built up with appropriate bits (36 Factory/Lyric Ultimate, min XT group set, Hope wheels etc)
In all honesty, if your answer is I can afford it so why not, I totally respect it and get it.

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anonymous said:

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Hard tails are mega, taking mine to Bike Park Wales on Thursday and just back from 3 days trail riding in Wales with it!

What are the benefits of a Ti frame, genuinely interested as my bikes got a great component spec and a swap like you're doing would definitely be viable for me. Sorry for taking this off topic.

[d8mok]

I've owned a Vendetta for around 2 years now. Its basically my winter mtb but I do use it during summer riding if i m riding longer/less aggressive trails.

Its a very capable bike and cleans up nicely with some scotchpads after a hard winters riding.


Mine is a X01/GX build, 160mm Pikes, M1700 wheels and rides lighter than it actually is.


I guess it comes down to whether you feel if the extra expense is justified for Ti. I own 3 (4 actually as one is going Thurs) Ti bikes and love how it rides but also how easily they are to care for.

[Jacobyte]

I was very close to getting a Vendetta, as Ti can give a superb ride plus is so easy to keep clean, with no corrosion.

Ultimately I went down the XC geo direction instead (Mosaic), but for a downhilly hardtail the Vendetta is right up there.

[Tall_Paul]

Ti is awesome, as above they're weather proof, damage proof (to a certain degree) and the ride is what I'd describe as 'warm' - not harsh at all, and the right lightweight frame can be quite springy.

Mine is a hardcore HT Ti frame, only with 12 gears dangling off the bottom I love it, it's 15.2kg all in, a steel frame would have been over 16kg easily and an alloy frame just far too harsh.

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

I honestly wouldn't swap it for a full sus... I think you'd regret swapping FS to hardtail as the 5010 is a cracking do anything bike.

If you ride techy, steep fast stuff an HT is a +1 not a replacement. For fire roads and blues / reds an HT is a viable swap... IMO obs.

Gratuitous pic of my Pole... Which will do anything my G1 and Kenevo will, and almost as fast but you're battered at the bottom. If you're going HT.... Long and slack is the way to go.

[d8mok]

anonymous said:

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It’s good on trails , and can ride anything a FS does. Just slower. Not so good on paths/road. Like I said it’s mainly a winter trail bike for me so I don’t ruin the main bike with mud/salt.

It’s not as harsh as a alloy frame , and lighter than steel so best of all worlds really.

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

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What about sturdy... Complete works of art.

[Captain Raymond Holt]

Tall_Paul said:

Ti is awesome, as above they're weather proof, damage proof (to a certain degree) and the ride is what I'd describe as 'warm' - not harsh at all, and the right lightweight frame can be quite springy.

Mine is a hardcore HT Ti frame, only with 12 gears dangling off the bottom I love it, it's 15.2kg all in, a steel frame would have been over 16kg easily and an alloy frame just far too harsh.

Nothing to add other than that is achingly pretty.

[ar-em-en]

anonymous said:

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Tf tuned have the frames in stock, so if you were dead set they would have a good chat with you.

I've got a stanton switchback ti frame which is lovely, the customer service is fantastic too.

[d8mok]

What questions do you have?

[d8mok]

I can take some when i get chance no issue.

For the money they are good quality . Yes not quite as well finished as say a Enigma or Moots but not something you would ever complain about.

Kingdom are quite a small outfit so takes time for them to respond Ive found.

[d8mok]

I'd say its a little better than a Tempest but not a million miles away. Both will be far east welded in bulk and the seller sticks their name on it.

[d8mok]

[d8mok]

Yeh they not too bad.

The tempest I looked at was a V3 and these are a little better. No idea of the previous versions and if they worse.

They not as nice as my Enigma but they aren’t bad.

Get one ordered , you won’t regret it

[d8mok]

anonymous said:

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I imagine they get lots of similair enquiries each day and deal with them in some sort of order. Maybe they are prioritising sold orders , warranty claims and firm orders.

What did you write to them? And how long ago?

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

anonymous said:

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Totally agree. What sort of service is likely when they actually have your money.

This facet of the bike industry never fails to amaze me. Far too many unresponsive parts and bike manufactures.

Whilst I'm not blind to price, I only tend to repeat buy stuff if the company gives good service... Be that a seller or manufacturer.

[d8mok]

anonymous said:

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And what did you write?

As I agree that’s a long time to wait for a response.

[d8mok]

anonymous said:

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Have you read their 'Contact us' page?

I' ve pasted it below just for ease....

"Thanks for visiting our site and interest in Kingdom, on this page you can contact us about general enquiries or about an order you have placed.

But please bear in mind we are a very small company with a small team doing lots of different jobs, from design and fabrication to web updates and stock shipping. We do not have a dedicated customer service team so it might take up to 48 hours for us to respond to your enquiry.

If you haven’t received a response after 48 hours, it’s not because we don’t like you but more likely your email has been buried under the volume of email’s we receive daily. But we value your enquiry so feel free to email again and we’ll try to get to it a second time around."


They also appear to have 2 separate contact forms. One for general stuff and one for existing orders. I'm guessing they get lots and lots of emails daily and have to prioritise.