Passed MOD2 now for a big bike
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Hi, I passed my MOD2 last week so now it's time to sell the VanVan and get something with more power.
Having considered countless options I'm about to sign on the line for a new GSX S750 it's a cracking looking bike, has traction control and more than enough power for me to grow into. It also comes with 3 years warranty and it seems to fit the bill perfectly. Thing is I'm in the middle of a divorce and currently living in a rented flat with an allocated parking space which is where the bike will be kept until maybe next year when everything's finalised and I can go and buy a place.
Am I nuts to buy a new bike and keep it outside albeit under a cover?
Having considered countless options I'm about to sign on the line for a new GSX S750 it's a cracking looking bike, has traction control and more than enough power for me to grow into. It also comes with 3 years warranty and it seems to fit the bill perfectly. Thing is I'm in the middle of a divorce and currently living in a rented flat with an allocated parking space which is where the bike will be kept until maybe next year when everything's finalised and I can go and buy a place.
Am I nuts to buy a new bike and keep it outside albeit under a cover?
FastNReliable said:
Hi, I passed my MOD2 last week so now it's time to sell the VanVan and get something with more power.
Having considered countless options I'm about to sign on the line for a new GSX S750 it's a cracking looking bike, has traction control and more than enough power for me to grow into. It also comes with 3 years warranty and it seems to fit the bill perfectly. Thing is I'm in the middle of a divorce and currently living in a rented flat with an allocated parking space which is where the bike will be kept until maybe next year when everything's finalised and I can go and buy a place.
Am I nuts to buy a new bike and keep it outside albeit under a cover?
whereabouts do you live - insurance might be a problem for a new bike not garaged.Having considered countless options I'm about to sign on the line for a new GSX S750 it's a cracking looking bike, has traction control and more than enough power for me to grow into. It also comes with 3 years warranty and it seems to fit the bill perfectly. Thing is I'm in the middle of a divorce and currently living in a rented flat with an allocated parking space which is where the bike will be kept until maybe next year when everything's finalised and I can go and buy a place.
Am I nuts to buy a new bike and keep it outside albeit under a cover?
sounds like a cracking bike - I don't understand why Abdul La BulBul thinks you will be bored of it...
I've had many bikes over the last 29 years since passing my full licence and I have never felt the need to buy a brand new one. I certainly wouldn't leave a brand new bile outside and as your first 'big' bikes isn't likely to be something you will keep long term (everyone I know into bikes has moved on not long after their first big bike once they really 'get' what it is they want which isn't usually what you think before you have owned a biggie for a while). I'd buy something a few years old, worry less about moisture/corrosion living outside, and then after you have moved if you then have a shed or garage to store it in consider if you want something new/newer then. Will also help with your insurance. Good luck and welcome to the freedom a full licence gives.
I too would go for the used option. One of the most common accident claims in the first 2 years is a low speed drop. Most of us have done it at some time or another. If its a used bike you wont be too bothered about picking up used bits and the odd scratch, or it living outside and the fasteners corroding over winter.
Maybe a used model of the same bike or similar style, Ride it for a season or two, get your life sorted out, house with garage etc then get the dream bike later. After 2 years of claim free riding your insurance should halve in cost.
Maybe a used model of the same bike or similar style, Ride it for a season or two, get your life sorted out, house with garage etc then get the dream bike later. After 2 years of claim free riding your insurance should halve in cost.
Abdul La BulBul said:
You'll get bored of that within 6 months...get something second hand that you wont lose so much cash on.
I agree, but think it will only be 4 months until the boredom/irritation arrives. OP, buy a used bike. Plenty of people only buy bikes to ride 2,000 miles a year in good weather. Even with current inflated used bike prices, one of those bikes is better value than a new one. If you want a warranty, some manufacturers have an approved used range with a warranty.
I wouldn’t keep a bike anywhere overnight with public access unless I could chain it to a solid object with a 16mm chain. Even if you are in a rental flat, put in a ground anchor if there isn’t a solid object. It’s cheaper than having a bike stolen.
Sorry about your divorce. Sometimes life sucks, but enjoy the bike that you get.
Edited by Iminquarantine on Monday 24th May 23:23
Only thing that concerns me about the post is storage. Don't just cover it, buy a decent bike shelter/tent, which allows airflow and prevents rusting. Get some decent security too. Better yet, see if a friend will allow use of garage?
I too got my licence and bike during/following a divorce, so can empathise the situation somewhat.
Longest I've kept a bike is 2 years, and that was a race bike. All the others I've sold after a year, give or take a bit.
I also dropped my first bike all the time, and wrote off my second which was brand new.
it's nearly as common a trope as the old 'MX5' answer to any 'what car?' thread, but I'd seriously be considering a used SV650. Hell, even new they are about £5k. It'll also have more accessible power and are more suited to a newer rider.
That being said, I'd imagine the GSXS750 is a fine bike, and you'll enjoy yourself. Fortunately with bikes and their prices, even if you sell it after only a year or two you probably won't lose that much so I'd just go ahead, buy it, and enjoy it whilst we're still allowed to buy petrol without being legally mobbed by climate protesters.
I too got my licence and bike during/following a divorce, so can empathise the situation somewhat.
Longest I've kept a bike is 2 years, and that was a race bike. All the others I've sold after a year, give or take a bit.
I also dropped my first bike all the time, and wrote off my second which was brand new.
it's nearly as common a trope as the old 'MX5' answer to any 'what car?' thread, but I'd seriously be considering a used SV650. Hell, even new they are about £5k. It'll also have more accessible power and are more suited to a newer rider.
That being said, I'd imagine the GSXS750 is a fine bike, and you'll enjoy yourself. Fortunately with bikes and their prices, even if you sell it after only a year or two you probably won't lose that much so I'd just go ahead, buy it, and enjoy it whilst we're still allowed to buy petrol without being legally mobbed by climate protesters.
Edited by Pebbles167 on Monday 24th May 23:44
Thanks everyone, I appreciate the comments.
This bike journey has taken me maybe twenty years in the planning and almost two years in the execution, in fact my CBT had one week left when I passed. I've done all the usual, reading, thinking, watching while trying to decide what bike to buy when I'd passed. Ideally it'd be a well looked after S1000R but hey, maybe that's next. In the meantime it's good to have something to dream about
I've been all around the houses and had planned to buy a second hand bike but currently they just aren't out there at a price I think is realistic. A big service, a set of tyres and some of them would have cost nearly as much. The new bike is in the colour scheme I like, the deal is good and it comes with the three year warranty.
I have some bike no claims and I have a couple of quotes at £530 albeit with a £1k~ excess. The GSXS has been around in the same form for five years(?) so if I dropped it and needed second hand parts there should be a reasonable supply.
I hadn't considered a ground anchor but I see there are some screw in types that I could remove afterwards. Another option would be to bolt it to the curbstone but I'm not sure how that would go down.
This bike journey has taken me maybe twenty years in the planning and almost two years in the execution, in fact my CBT had one week left when I passed. I've done all the usual, reading, thinking, watching while trying to decide what bike to buy when I'd passed. Ideally it'd be a well looked after S1000R but hey, maybe that's next. In the meantime it's good to have something to dream about
I've been all around the houses and had planned to buy a second hand bike but currently they just aren't out there at a price I think is realistic. A big service, a set of tyres and some of them would have cost nearly as much. The new bike is in the colour scheme I like, the deal is good and it comes with the three year warranty.
I have some bike no claims and I have a couple of quotes at £530 albeit with a £1k~ excess. The GSXS has been around in the same form for five years(?) so if I dropped it and needed second hand parts there should be a reasonable supply.
I hadn't considered a ground anchor but I see there are some screw in types that I could remove afterwards. Another option would be to bolt it to the curbstone but I'm not sure how that would go down.
My bikes normally live in a big shed in the back garden but I have a ground anchor I've bolted to the front of the house so when using the bike regularly (ie if we get a summer) I can leave out the front chained to this with a thick chain and Decent padlock with a cover over rather than have to extract from the garden each time. Bear in mind you can't put a cover on while exhaust is still hot so an anchor of some sort is imperative really so you can bolt to that while it cools down before covering say an hour later in case any opportunists with a van passing by. I live in a decent area but scumbags travel!
I was pleasantly surprised by the gsx s750 when I borrowed a friends for a week or so. Neutral handling, felt reasonably light and quick to turn. More torque than I expected from a 750 inline four (at the expense of top end rpm granted). Engine sounded good with an arrow slip on, and was good looking in red.
Wind blast was not great over 90 or so, but all naked bikes are similar I guess. My friend had no problems in 2 years, faired well in a 20 mph low side as well.
Wind blast was not great over 90 or so, but all naked bikes are similar I guess. My friend had no problems in 2 years, faired well in a 20 mph low side as well.
I would not leave it outside in an allocated parking space if ain't chained to a ground anchor with a serious chain it ain't going to be there very long they ain't going to let put a ground anchor
iv got my mt10 SP outside temporary chained to the concrete under a ten cover in front of my living room window but I own the property and there 3 cctv cams on it and I and the rottweiler would go postal on anyone that trys to nick it
and that's only temporary until I figure out a way to get it in and out of the house easier planning on it living in the hall as soon as a can get a path put in from driveway to front door and a ramp at door
just buy shed of a bigger bike to play with to you move you may drop it anyway of you not rode much before das
then get away better bike when you move you properly want something else anyway not long after you get a 750
don't waste your cash on a new bike unless you plan on hanging it all the while on a PCP deal as there are, way too many good deals on nearly new bikes my mt10 sp as an example 15grand new 5 grand of extras on it only done 1185 miles barely been run in
picked it up for 10grand
iv got my mt10 SP outside temporary chained to the concrete under a ten cover in front of my living room window but I own the property and there 3 cctv cams on it and I and the rottweiler would go postal on anyone that trys to nick it
and that's only temporary until I figure out a way to get it in and out of the house easier planning on it living in the hall as soon as a can get a path put in from driveway to front door and a ramp at door
just buy shed of a bigger bike to play with to you move you may drop it anyway of you not rode much before das
then get away better bike when you move you properly want something else anyway not long after you get a 750
don't waste your cash on a new bike unless you plan on hanging it all the while on a PCP deal as there are, way too many good deals on nearly new bikes my mt10 sp as an example 15grand new 5 grand of extras on it only done 1185 miles barely been run in
picked it up for 10grand
Edited by MT10-SP on Tuesday 25th May 05:40
Edited by MT10-SP on Tuesday 25th May 09:02
On the used bikes being expensive, yes at the moment they are expensive but they are still cheaper than new bikes even if you factor in new tyres. Most people want an accessory with their bike, eg luggage, crash bungs, engine bars, radiator guard, more lights etc etc. You can usually find a used bike which has some of these and they do not increase the secondhand price. They cost a lot if you have to buy the accessories new yourself and fit them.
Don't get sucked into anything suggesting "there are good bikes for beginners". The only good bikes for any rider, beginner or very experienced, are the ones that you actually want.
As has been mentioned. many new riders find that the bike they bought when they first passed their test didn't stay with them very long. As such, it's possibly better to buy second hand so that depreciation losses are reduced. If you find that it is THE bike for you, then you can always then buy a new one as a replacement.
Again, as has been mentioned, in the fist couple of years, many new riders drop their bikes. Often this is a result of pushing the bike around the driveway/car park. Again, a second hand bike has less of an impact (emotional and financial) when it hits the ground.
Getting test rides on as many different bikes, and as many different styles of bike as you can, before you buy, is the best thing you can do.
As has been mentioned. many new riders find that the bike they bought when they first passed their test didn't stay with them very long. As such, it's possibly better to buy second hand so that depreciation losses are reduced. If you find that it is THE bike for you, then you can always then buy a new one as a replacement.
Again, as has been mentioned, in the fist couple of years, many new riders drop their bikes. Often this is a result of pushing the bike around the driveway/car park. Again, a second hand bike has less of an impact (emotional and financial) when it hits the ground.
Getting test rides on as many different bikes, and as many different styles of bike as you can, before you buy, is the best thing you can do.
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Again, as has been mentioned, in the fist couple of years, many new riders drop their bikes. Often this is a result of pushing the bike around the driveway/car park. Again, a second hand bike has less of an impact (emotional and financial) when it hits the ground.
Getting test rides on as many different bikes, and as many different styles of bike as you can, before you buy, is the best thing you can do.
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I think not just new riders. I’ve toppled every bike I’ve ever owned. The BMW went over about a fortnight ago as I failed to put the side stand out fully. Most of the people I know do similar, regardless of experience.
OP, fit engine bars or crash bungs so you don’t scratch anything if/when it topples.
Again, as has been mentioned, in the fist couple of years, many new riders drop their bikes. Often this is a result of pushing the bike around the driveway/car park. Again, a second hand bike has less of an impact (emotional and financial) when it hits the ground.
Getting test rides on as many different bikes, and as many different styles of bike as you can, before you buy, is the best thing you can do.
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I think not just new riders. I’ve toppled every bike I’ve ever owned. The BMW went over about a fortnight ago as I failed to put the side stand out fully. Most of the people I know do similar, regardless of experience.
OP, fit engine bars or crash bungs so you don’t scratch anything if/when it topples.
Iminquarantine said:
black-k1 said:
Again, as has been mentioned, in the fist couple of years, many new riders drop their bikes. Often this is a result of pushing the bike around the driveway/car park. Again, a second hand bike has less of an impact (emotional and financial) when it hits the ground.
Getting test rides on as many different bikes, and as many different styles of bike as you can, before you buy, is the best thing you can do.
I think not just new riders. I’ve toppled every bike I’ve ever owned. The BMW went over about a fortnight ago as I failed to put the side stand out fully. Most of the people I know do similar, regardless of experience. Getting test rides on as many different bikes, and as many different styles of bike as you can, before you buy, is the best thing you can do.
OP, fit engine bars or crash bungs so you don’t scratch anything if/when it topples.
Iminquarantine said:
I think not just new riders. I’ve toppled every bike I’ve ever owned. The BMW went over about a fortnight ago as I failed to put the side stand out fully. Most of the people I know do similar, regardless of experience.
OP, fit engine bars or crash bungs so you don’t scratch anything if/when it topples.
lol iv never know anyone drop every bike they owned beforeOP, fit engine bars or crash bungs so you don’t scratch anything if/when it topples.
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