65” tv options?
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Slow

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Brother bought his first flat, needs a tv for a wall. 65” is roughly the right size to fill the wall edge to edge.

Looking for the a cheap but good 65” smart 4K hdr tv basically. Previous good experiences with a 49” LG tv so probably preferred brand.

Has access to a 10% off Tesco discount but doubt they carry such a tv in store.


henrycrun

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Saturday 15th May 2021
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What is the distance from sofa to screen ?

Slow

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henrycrun said:
What is the distance from sofa to screen ?
About 12 feet, it’s a decent size room, maybe 25 feet wide so big viewing angles too.

Edit: the gap it’s filling

https://imgur.com/a/08gb5z6

Edited by Slow on Saturday 15th May 23:31

SS2.

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Sunday 16th May 2021
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There are some bargains to be had out there. For instance, Samsung are hard pushing their 2021 range of QLEDs which means the last of the 2020 models have been slashed in price.

What's the budget ?

Slow

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The less the better that’s not buying some random brand basically.

He’s not a massive tv user, no consoles etc but has a stupidly good pc.

It’s just for watching Netflix/when people are over.

Deep Thought

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Deep Thought

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Slow

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Both are only 50hz. Looking for 60 really.

I had found both of them before as well haha.

Deep Thought

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Slow said:
Both are only 50hz. Looking for 60 really.

I had found both of them before as well haha.
Panasonic £609 delivered.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX-65HX580BZ-Ul...

Samsung £668 delivered.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-TU7100-HDR-Smart-...


Slow

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Thanks, will show him and let him see what he prefers.


Mr Pointy

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Slow said:
Both are only 50hz. Looking for 60 really.

I had found both of them before as well haha.
Why is 60Hz an advantage?

Lucid_AV

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52 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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Slow said:
Both are only 50hz. Looking for 60 really.

I had found both of them before as well haha.
Any set that is 50Hz will do 60Hz as well. All panels will cope like this.

To get anything better requires going to a 100Hz panel, and that type will do 120Hz as well. These are the panels' native refresh rates. In simpler terms, how many real images can be shown per second. The analogy is a bit like camera shutter speed. A 50th/60th of a second is okay for general use as long as there's not too much movement, and that's when you notice some image blurring. A faster shutter speed produces a crisper image.

I'd be very wary of buying a big cheap LG.

The brand always tries to offer more features than it's main rival Samsung, but in the process it cuts corners in other areas. Two problems that has surfaced in the last couple of years are the dim image with HDR and the premature backlight failure.

LG decided to economic on the number of LED lights it uses to illuminate the screen in order to save costs. As a result, the remaining lights have to work much harder to compensate. This has two consequences. First, the lights are nearly maxed out just in SDR mode, so there's very little left in reserve to give HDR any kind of additional brightness boost to make it stand out. Put more simply, HDR looks crap.

Second, by running the LEDs so hard it accelerates their decay. They get hot, and hot electronics are rarely happy electronics. Stuff fails much faster than normal. The symptoms of backlight failure are the image going purple in places. The only remedy is to strip the panel and replace the faulty backlights. In car terms it's the equivalent of a manufacturer fitting a stty clutch. The car might be nice and have a load of toys, but it's going to spend a lot of time on the ramps in the garage getting new clutches.

Any official LG service agent is going to be limited by LG's service agreements as to what parts can be supplied. LG only supplies the entire panel as a whole unit (front screen, LED panel matrix, light diffuser, LED light assembly), and the cost of this makes an in-warranty repair uneconomical. An official service agent won't replace the LEDs. Unofficial third party repairers will, but at a cost of £150 for a 43"-50", and more for the larger sets, you can see the real cost of LGs decision to save a few cents in production.



At the moment Richer Sounds and John Lewis are still offering their warranties on cheaper LGs. I don't know how long this will continue. They'll either do a deal with LG to cover some of the parts cost or they'll get screwed by the brand; time will tell.

For anyone buying from a retailer only offering the standard 12 months warranty then I would definitely consider adding £200-£250 repair tax to the purchase price of a "cheap" LG and then look again at what else is around at the revised price.

Deep Thought

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Slow said:
Thanks, will show him and let him see what he prefers.
We've a 65 inch Samsung and two 55 inch ones. All of them are 50Hz i think. All great TVs. Well pleased with them.

We used these wall mounts for them.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01AYBLPNA/ref...

They're very strong, and allow for tilt forward as well as good turning angles if required. The 65 inch one we wall mounted it about an inch about a unit so it looks like its "floating" (the original stand feet at each end were ungainly).

I'd also get a pack of longer VESA bolts. The ones that come with all mounts are just standard length ones and on those Samsung TVs (and likely others) he might struggle to get them threaded in.

Cheaply bought.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163639876360?hash=item2...

Alucidnation

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186 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
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Panasonic.

amongst everything else, Samsung & LG UI is appalling

Deep Thought

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Alucidnation said:
Panasonic.

amongst everything else, Samsung & LG UI is appalling
Not my experience of Samsung over the 20+ years i've been buying them.

Blib

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If he's going to hang it high on the wall then go as cheap as possible.

Deep Thought

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Blib said:
If he's going to hang it high on the wall then go as cheap as possible.
Why?

Blib

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Deep Thought said:
Blib said:
If he's going to hang it high on the wall then go as cheap as possible.
Why?
Because for very best viewing the centre of the TV screen should be at the viewer's eye level.


Deep Thought

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Blib said:
Deep Thought said:
Blib said:
If he's going to hang it high on the wall then go as cheap as possible.
Why?
Because for very best viewing the centre of the TV screen should be at the viewer's eye level.
Ah right was concerned you meant RE: possible damage to the chassis or screen or something.


Slow

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Well after all the advice he has ended up buying a ex display 65” LG nano something. Something to do with which best tv last year or something.

Paid £615 in the end.

Only so much advice can be given before seeing the tv in person made him want it haha.