3 or 5 series?
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Gandoolie

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200 posts

77 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Good evening all!

If a new job comes off I’ll be looking at a car allowance which would probably mean I’d be looking for a new car. I’ve always liked BMW 3s and 5s, especially as an estate.

I’ve been in vans for the last several years with work so I’m completely clueless as to what would be the best thing to go for? I’m looking for some performance but as it’s also going to be a working vehicle I’ll be needing some economy.

Budget would ideally be around £10k .

Thanks for reading!

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

135 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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longer mileage 5 series

more in town driving 3 series


5 series is more refined, 3 series a bit more sporty and easier to park

Rob 131 Sport

4,797 posts

80 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Both are great and you won’t be disappointed. However for £10k I’d be looking at something with less then 15k miles per year, low ownership and a full BMW or Specialist History.

To get the most for your money unfortunately I’d rule out the M Sport Models and Touring / Estates. You are therefore looking at either a 320d or 520d SE.

Gandoolie

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Monday 26th April 2021
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Rob 131 Sport said:
Both are great and you won’t be disappointed. However for £10k I’d be looking at something with less then 15k miles per year, low ownership and a full BMW or Specialist History.

To get the most for your money unfortunately I’d rule out the M Sport Models and Touring / Estates. You are therefore looking at either a 320d or 520d SE.
I’ve noticed saloons are better value for money and to be honest if push came to shove I could do without the Estate

Pistonheader101

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Monday 26th April 2021
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Gandoolie said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
Both are great and you won’t be disappointed. However for £10k I’d be looking at something with less then 15k miles per year, low ownership and a full BMW or Specialist History.

To get the most for your money unfortunately I’d rule out the M Sport Models and Touring / Estates. You are therefore looking at either a 320d or 520d SE.
I’ve noticed saloons are better value for money and to be honest if push came to shove I could do without the Estate
estates also have better residuals, and general and on average are slightly better specced

Gandoolie

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Monday 26th April 2021
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Is M-sport worth it overall?

SteveR1979

601 posts

169 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Do the 20d's still have timing chain issues?

Out of principle I'd go for a 530d touring. They have the right number of cylinders, a big boot, strong residues, and I've had 2 in a row.

Probably the best cars I've ever owned.

M-Sport vs SE, I always go for SE's, I feel that they ride better.
M-Sports do look nicer and have stronger residuals though.


Gandoolie

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Monday 26th April 2021
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SteveR1979 said:
Do the 20d's still have timing chain issues?

Out of principle I'd go for a 530d touring. They have the right number of cylinders, a big boot, strong residues, and I've had 2 in a row.

Probably the best cars I've ever owned.

M-Sport vs SE, I always go for SE's, I feel that they ride better.
M-Sports do look nicer and have stronger residuals though.
What kind of economy are you getting from the 530?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

226 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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Gandoolie said:
Is M-sport worth it overall?
Definitely for me and I’ve had two BMWs 330d and 535d.
Prefer the looks love the dark headlining and also aside from M car proper it’s the highest spec in the range.

Gandoolie

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77 months

Monday 26th April 2021
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I’ve been looking at Alpina D3s too, just for a different slant on a 3 series

ChrisDT

1,902 posts

218 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Alpina D3 is a good car.

I tend to stick with 5 series, had a couple of 3 series and they were too small in the back (E91).

Currently got a 520d M-Sport estate (F11) and it's a great car, comfy, looks ok for an estate, nav system is good, plenty of space and it's not too big to park in town.


pb8g09

3,186 posts

97 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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I had "Modern" trim on my 3 series Touring. It had the side wall on the tyres to make it comfy but also had all the high spec inside (Pro Nav, better leather, tinted windows etc). It doesn't carry the cost of M-Sport but has most of the benefits. Steering wheel looked a bit crap though in comparison.

Gandoolie

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77 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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This is a whole different rabbit hole to go down!

un1eash

667 posts

168 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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As someone else mentioned above, if you do a lot of town driving then a 3 series else a 5 series. The 5 is hands down better quality and refinement but so big. We had a 520d M Sport Tourer new in 2016 and it was very nice, also fitted with the more reliable B47 engine from 2014 and not the N47 my old E92 320d had.

Gandoolie

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Tuesday 27th April 2021
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un1eash said:
As someone else mentioned above, if you do a lot of town driving then a 3 series else a 5 series. The 5 is hands down better quality and refinement but so big. We had a 520d M Sport Tourer new in 2016 and it was very nice, also fitted with the more reliable B47 engine from 2014 and not the N47 my old E92 320d had.
I think it’s probably going to be a 5 series as it’s going to be driving to site and not so much pottering about. What engines should I be avoiding?

ZX10R NIN

30,472 posts

153 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Gandoolie said:
I think it’s probably going to be a 5 series as it’s going to be driving to site and not so much pottering about. What engines should I be avoiding?
At 10k I'd be looking for the best 525/530d you can find:

530d M Sport

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102028...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102038...

525d M Sport Estate

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102088...

SE Saloon

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202104221...

Rob 131 Sport

4,797 posts

80 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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ZX10R NIN said:
Gandoolie said:
I think it’s probably going to be a 5 series as it’s going to be driving to site and not so much pottering about. What engines should I be avoiding?
At 10k I'd be looking for the best 525/530d you can find:

530d M Sport

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102028...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102038...

525d M Sport Estate

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202102088...

SE Saloon

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202104221...
I’ve had a 520d (ex demo) 525i New) and currently an ex demo 530d M Sport. At £10k I would definitely go for a 520d as you’ll get a much newer car for your money. You’ll be surprised at just how good a 520d SE is. Amazing economy, comfort and surprisingly rapid.

ZX10R NIN

30,472 posts

153 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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That's the good thing about choice, as personally I'd rather have an older car with the 3.0d than the a newer 2.0d.

Neither option is wrong it'll be down to what you prefer OP.

Gandoolie

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Tuesday 27th April 2021
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ZX10R NIN said:
That's the good thing about choice, as personally I'd rather have an older car with the 3.0d than the a newer 2.0d.

Neither option is wrong it'll be down to what you prefer OP.
Whats the key issues to be looking for? Someone mentioned timing chain issues?

un1eash

667 posts

168 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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The BMW N47 2.0 diesel is notorious for timing chain issues, I'd never have one again as I believe it's a matter of when and not if it goes snap.