MX5 vs GT86
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LordGrover

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34,138 posts

240 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Has anyone here switched from GT86 to MX5 and been happy?

Since my GT86 I've tried a few cars as replacements but none so far has quite hit the mark/marque.
Z4 35i DCT, 986 Boxster, Scirocco R and 981 Boxster, and previously FTO, 350Z and TVR Griffith - all had their plus points, but none of them matched the GT86 as a fun every day car. I'm a coupe/sports car person not a hot-hatch kind, and some practicality and creature comforts required so Elise and the like not suitable as a daily driver for me.

I drove the MX-5 RF when they were first released and was pleasantly surprised - it's a fun little car, though I'd prefer the proper convertible. The test drive was great, but that didn't test the practicality - the boot's tiny with an even smaller opening. Not even a glove-box inside, just a cubby between the seats on the rear wall. I think I'd need to keep a second car for the rare occasions I need the space.

Hoping to move on the Boxster this Summer so still some time to decide, but with current COVID restrictions it's difficult to assess personally.

sherman

15,186 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Would a Supra be in budget?

brillomaster

1,851 posts

198 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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What did you like about the gt86 that is lacking from everything else?

Id consider an e85 roadster or e86 coupe z4. Not too powerful, good handling, nice noise... yet has glovebox, big boot, a/c and cruise control so would be practical as a daily too.

samoht

7,177 posts

174 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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RX-7 is pretty much the same size, weight and practicality as the GT86, but adds double wishbones, 50/50 balance and more performance. However it's an older car that'll need more maintenance.

LordGrover

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240 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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As you suggest, Supra too pricy for me at mo - just getting out of Boxster and need something more budget friendly.

The early Z4's are getting on a bit now, same as the RX-7.
Ideally, I'm looking for up to two years old and sub 20k miles - c. £10,000 to £20,000.

Trevor555

5,379 posts

112 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Toyota are launching the new GR86 later this year.

Adding a turbo.

Might be worth waiting for.

mattman

3,192 posts

250 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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depends on desired budget, but a late Celica could meet the brief or if you are willing to splash a little more cash a 2.7 Cayman - gives you the drivability without the overall speed of the S so you can drive it a little bit harder on our roads?

Probably fits more in the hatch bucket, but there a raft of Mini's out there that are like go-karts with performance to match

CABC

6,273 posts

129 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Minis are great fun and hugely capable (owned 2), but they're not what the op is asking for, and i think we'd agree why.
out the box the 86 is a tighter steer than the ND. Both can be easily modded (as you know) and the 180 ND with better suspension and nasp mods to 225 would be quite a driving delight i think. Such a beast is my list to do too, 15k base car and 10k mods.

LordGrover

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Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Trevor555 said:
Toyota are launching the new GR86 later this year.

Adding a turbo.

Might be worth waiting for.
I've already registered my interest with two Toyota dealers. biggrin
That's mid-late next year though.

No turbo, thankfully. cool

Trevor555

5,379 posts

112 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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LordGrover said:
Trevor555 said:
Toyota are launching the new GR86 later this year.

Adding a turbo.

Might be worth waiting for.
I've already registered my interest with two Toyota dealers. biggrin
That's mid-late next year though.

No turbo, thankfully. cool
Oh, the early reports I read said it'd get a turbo.

Just looked at the latest report that says no turbo.

I'd order your car online as soon as Toyota allow you to.

I paid a deposit for a GR Yaris when they were very first mentioned in the press.

Long story short, the dealer didn't get me a car, or might have simply sold it to someone else.

People were taking delivery of their cars when I was being told I'll have to wait another three months.

When you order online you'll be guaranteed a car.

I'm sure there are good dealers out there, but that was my experience. I had no control of the order.

LordGrover

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34,138 posts

240 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Yep, nearly suffered the same fate when I ordered my GT86 June/July 2012. If I hadn't called to check something I would've lost my place.
To be fair, I could've had it delivered early August 2012 but I decided to wait for the 62 plate.

ChrisH72

3,068 posts

80 months

Tuesday 30th March 2021
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Under 2 years old, less than 20k miles for between £10-£20k doesn't appear to give you many options.

It's basically an mx5

Or if you stretch to just over £20k you could always buy a 2019 GT86?

LordGrover

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Wednesday 31st March 2021
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Fair point. Perhaps more realistically up to maybe five years old and 'low' miles.

ChrisH72

3,068 posts

80 months

Wednesday 31st March 2021
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M240i maybe?

Great engine and choice of coupe/convertible as well as manual/auto. Some nice examples under £20k.

I'm guessing you want rwd?

If not the MK3 Audi TT looks nice to me and gets great reviews.

For what it is the gt86 seems to be in a class of it's own. Fairly new RWD manual coupe with a bit of practicality and NA engine. Flawed but fun and full of character. I'd definitely have one. As I said, you could always go back to one as they are still on sale.

griffter

4,143 posts

283 months

Wednesday 31st March 2021
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LordGrover said:
Fair point. Perhaps more realistically up to maybe five years old and 'low' miles.
Hey Grover wavey

Like cheap, fast, good I think you can only pick two!

More a case of missing from your list of ex’s than hitting your criteria square on, but how about a late, low mileage S2000? Easily doable in budget.

I have ‘99 S2000 these days and it’s brilliant. Not a daily driver though.

LordGrover

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240 months

Wednesday 31st March 2021
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Hi Ben - long time no see.
Still miss the Growl days. cooldrivingdrunk

I was never a fan of the S2000, mainly for the wrong reasons. Way back when... I had a friend/drinking acquaintance who was subbing for Honda Swindon - Y2K consultant - coining it in. He had one supplied by Honda as part of the package. He took me out for a spin a couple of times and scared the bejesus out of me - more him being a knobber than anything wrong with the car. Rather put me off them to this day though. Silly I guess.

Maybe see you at Castle Comb or Prescott sometime, once we're allowed out again. beer

CostaBrava1972

155 posts

80 months

Wednesday 31st March 2021
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Abarth 124 spider?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

(Pictures included).

andburg

8,708 posts

197 months

Wednesday 31st March 2021
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Other option to the GT86/Mx5 would be an Abarth 124 spider, not quite as sharp but to my eyes at least, better looking.

adding a few years of window means a late 2017ish 370z will be in budget but its not going to be anywhere near as sharp as the GT86


the move towards SUV's has killed off the small non-premium coupe/convertibles

LordGrover

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34,138 posts

240 months

Wednesday 31st March 2021
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FIAT/Abarth 124 was on my radar as I like the look of them, but not a fan of turbos so it's a no for me.

braddo

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216 months

Wednesday 31st March 2021
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Probably too old, and too thirsty as a daily driver, but what about one of the last RX8s?

Lotus Europe for an Elise type with bigger boot and a few more comforts.

Early Evoras are high 20s...