I can pay off my mortgage early. Should I?
I can pay off my mortgage early. Should I?
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PatHeald

Original Poster:

8,058 posts

285 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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My initial reaction, of course, was a resounding YES!

But the situation is not quite that simple.

I have a domestic mortgage committment of £155,000.

I have recently inherited exactly the same sum.

The mortgage is fixed at 4.66% to November 2007, with a 290 day gross interest pentaly on early redemption.

If I stick the cash in a high interest account until November 2007, my faltering arithmetic suggests that the difference between net interest earned and mortgage interest paid will be less than the redemption penalty.

If this is correct (and it probably isn't, cos I'm crap at sums) then where is the best place to put the cash until Nov 2007?

I must confess to being sorely tempted to buy that old Ferrari 328 that I have always promised myself, while I am still young enough not to look daft in one. The depreciation and running costs would not be too horrible over a couple of years.

Suggestions, abuse, views, sarcasm, insults, humour, wit and wisdom are welcome.

Cheers :drink:

Pat

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Have you considered buy-to-let?

You could get yourself a modest, three-bed somewhere for that money.

If you choose the right spot you'll get some appreciation in the value and you'll also have an income of several hundred quid a month.

Enough for the loan on the toy...

Scoobz

6,578 posts

277 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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PatHeald said:
I must confess to being sorely tempted to buy that old Ferrari 328



You know your "daft things you do without thinking" thread chief?

Your thinking again aren't you.

Stop it.

In case your thinking again:



Stop it.

Stop thinking and do it.

>> Edited by Scoobz on Monday 11th July 08:03

rich 36

13,739 posts

295 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Are yout thinking straight,

will that 328 really work with that car lift, or indeed fit there to park it even.

I've just measured, the amount of ground space beside my car, and it will just fit nicely there, is it far away?

cosmoschick

7,977 posts

278 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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PatHeald said:
...while I am still young enough not to look daft in one.




If I was in your shoes, my initial thought would be to pay off half the mortgage (if you have a flexible account which allows you to do this) thereby substantially reducing the monthly outgoings for the remainder of the term, put some of the cash into a savings account for a rainy day and then spend the rest on a few luxuries. (In my case, the luxuries would include a couple of horses, another sports car and a trip to Canada, Australia and New Zealand to visit relatives, etc.)

rich 36

13,739 posts

295 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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NOOOOO

Think of the car lift,
think man!

Witchfinder

6,388 posts

281 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Can you pay all but £1 of your mortgage off? That way, you don't need to cough up the penalty, but you're effectively "debt free". You should also be able reclaim your overpayment at any time should you suddenly need the cash.

wedgepilot

819 posts

312 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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I would. If you pay it off early, you immediately get an £x per month pay rise, where x is your current mortgage payment.

Think what you could do with that...maybe a buy to let AND a new toy

john75

5,303 posts

276 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Witchfinder said:
Can you pay all but £1 of your mortgage off? That way, you don't need to cough up the penalty, but you're effectively "debt free". You should also be able reclaim your overpayment at any time should you suddenly need the cash.


Thats a good way round a redemption penalty.

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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You lucky lucky bd etc

It depends IMO on how the redemption penalty would work, and what you want to do with your life, whether you like your job etc

There are tax implications with BTL if tyou don't make the mortgage cost more than the money you're getting in rent, so you're back to square one with that. And IMHO unless you can find something for a bargain price, now might not be the best time

Have you thought about investing in a classic car, Ferrari for instnace

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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What wedge says. Pay off the mortgage and get a pay rise to pay for the car.

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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If i was in your shoes Pat, i would pay of my mortgage entirely. Your property won't depreciate like a car or other luxury item will. Also your quality of life would be better without a sizeable chunk of your income going on a mortgage anymore.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Witchfinder said:
Can you pay all but £1 of your mortgage off?


Doubt that will work.

Check with your lender but:-

Pay off 10% of outstanding capital now and then again in 12mths time. This is usually the maximunm you are allowed to pay off in any 12mth period without inducing the Early Repayment Penalty.

You can then put the rest away in a high interest account, or even a 12mth bond, if you think you might be tempted to spend it.

What would I do in your position? The above, save that i would possibly look at spending iro £25k on fun car or whatever.

Don't know what you are paying per month but it's got to be about £8-900 at the very least. Imagine that extra every month?

jodypress

2,107 posts

303 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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hmm let me see, london has just won the olympics for 2012.
why not buy a flat in east london ASAP, wait 4-5 years, sell it at a hugely inflated price and go buy yourself a supercar, plus pay off other mortage

cotty

42,226 posts

313 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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cosmoschick said:

If I was in your shoes, my initial thought would be to pay off half the mortgage (if you have a flexible account which allows you to do this) thereby substantially reducing the monthly outgoings for the remainder of the term, put some of the cash into a savings account for a rainy day and then spend the rest on a few luxuries. (In my case, the luxuries would include a couple of horses, another sports car and a trip to Canada, Australia and New Zealand to visit relatives, etc.)



Agreed, pay chunk off mortgage then if not done already done new bathroom, kitchen, double glazing, decorating, new furniture etc. Whats the point of being debt free and living in a hovel.

Also I would keep my existing car and get a toy for the weekends, Caterham or Arial Atom

Wish I was in your position

srebbe64

13,021 posts

266 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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PatHeald said:

I have a domestic mortgage committment of £155,000.

I have recently inherited exactly the same sum.


What a strange coincidence! Are the police aware of it?

kerfuffle

5,253 posts

283 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Damn right you should - you never know what might happen in the future but at least your home will be yours. If you want a new car, buy it with your large pay rise

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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john75 said:

Witchfinder said:
Can you pay all but £1 of your mortgage off? That way, you don't need to cough up the penalty, but you're effectively "debt free". You should also be able reclaim your overpayment at any time should you suddenly need the cash.



Thats a good way round a redemption penalty.


only works with a very few mortgage companies eg northern rock.

srebbe64

13,021 posts

266 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Remember you'll have to pay tax on the interest that the money earns. I'd certainly pay off the mortgage and be shot of it!

ledger

1,063 posts

312 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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where can you get a guaranteed 4.66% post tax, I assume you are a higher rate tax payer ?.