Pilot Sport 4 to Primacy 4?

[bjb44]

Hi

I have 215/45/R17 Pilot Sport 4 on my car atm, but theyre too hard for my liking (get a LOT of vibration into the cabin which basically causes rattles everywhere). Only on some days do I get no noise, which im guessing is when the tyres are warmed up enough and every other variable is literally perfect

Would switching to 215/45/R17 Primacy 4 be worth it? I know switching to 16's would be favourable, but out of budget.

Tyrereviews rates the comfort at 86 vs pilot sport 4 at 81 which doesnt seem like much to me, but id take it

Car is an Ibiza FR 2016

[InitialDave]

I found the ride on the PS4 to be perfectly fine, what other tyres have you tried on this particular car?

[stanglish]

I think PS4s don't have the best reputation for noise, but on the plus side they are a top of the line premium perfromance tyre.

Primacies are Eco tyres on the other hand - so have less grip though apparently less rolling resistance to return a better mpg. Toyota GT86s came with Primacies and plenty of people noted how little grip they gave (in a good way i.e. drifto)

Silly as it sounds have you checked your pressures?

I'm sure someone will be along in a moment with a known quiet tyre. My gut says there would be a better compromise than Primacies.

[trickywoo]

Goodyear f1 assy 5 are the quietest most comfortable tyres I’ve had. I run two of the same car one on Goodyear 205/45/17 and one on continental eco contacts 215/45. The Goodyears are nicer.

[bjb44]

InitialDave said:

I found the ride on the PS4 to be perfectly fine, what other tyres have you tried on this particular car?

I had Dunlop Sport Maxx but gashed one of them on a curb so decided to replace all 4 for PS4

stanglish said:

I think PS4s don't have the best reputation for noise, but on the plus side they are a top of the line premium perfromance tyre.

Primacies are Eco tyres on the other hand - so have less grip though apparently less rolling resistance to return a better mpg. Toyota GT86s came with Primacies and plenty of people noted how little grip they gave (in a good way i.e. drifto)

Silly as it sounds have you checked your pressures?

I'm sure someone will be along in a moment with a known quiet tyre. My gut says there would be a better compromise than Primacies.

Yeah ive tried loads of different pressures ranging from 28 to 32, 28 is less rough but still feels like driving with concrete wheels. the FR suspension (or lack of at the back) doesnt help, as its crashy as it could possibly be

[MJK 24]

stanglish said:

I think PS4s don't have the best reputation for noise, but on the plus side they are a top of the line premium perfromance tyre.

Primacies are Eco tyres on the other hand - so have less grip though apparently less rolling resistance to return a better mpg. Toyota GT86s came with Primacies and plenty of people noted how little grip they gave (in a good way i.e. drifto)

Silly as it sounds have you checked your pressures?

I'm sure someone will be along in a moment with a known quiet tyre. My gut says there would be a better compromise than Primacies.

I don’t think Primacy are eco tyres? Michelin’s eco tyres have always been branded ‘Energy’.

Primacy are what’s fitted to normal everyday cars. A friend has just bought a new Peugeot 308. That’s come with Primacy. My Dad runs them on his A8.

[stanglish]

MJK 24 said:

I don’t think Primacy are eco tyres? Michelin’s eco tyres have always been branded ‘Energy’.

Primacy are what’s fitted to normal everyday cars. A friend has just bought a new Peugeot 308. That’s come with Primacy. My Dad runs them on his A8.

I stand corrected on the Eco business. Think most people with 86s found them disappointing but entertaining however, so that was probably an assumption on my part.

Maybe worth having realistic expectations when changing tyres in that case. Don't think it will be transformative though it sounds like it's driving OP batty.

[CousinDupree]

trickywoo said:

Goodyear f1 assy 5 are the quietest most comfortable tyres I’ve had. I run two of the same car one on Goodyear 205/45/17 and one on continental eco contacts 215/45. The Goodyears are nicer.

This. They are much quieter than competition.

[Grrbang]

bjb44 said:

Hi

I have 215/45/R17 Pilot Sport 4 on my car atm, but theyre too hard for my liking (get a LOT of vibration into the cabin which basically causes rattles everywhere). Only on some days do I get no noise, which im guessing is when the tyres are warmed up enough and every other variable is literally perfect

Would switching to 215/45/R17 Primacy 4 be worth it? I know switching to 16's would be favourable, but out of budget.

Tyrereviews rates the comfort at 86 vs pilot sport 4 at 81 which doesnt seem like much to me, but id take it

Car is an Ibiza FR 2016

I had the exact same tyres from new, and when they wore out I decided to go for cheaper Roadstones (free puncture replacements).

The slightly softer side wall caused a noticeable improvement in ride quality.

However, PS4s never caused vibration for me. Are you sure you don't have a wheel balance or alignment issue?

[vikingaero]

stanglish said:

MJK 24 said:

I don’t think Primacy are eco tyres? Michelin’s eco tyres have always been branded ‘Energy’.

Primacy are what’s fitted to normal everyday cars. A friend has just bought a new Peugeot 308. That’s come with Primacy. My Dad runs them on his A8.

I stand corrected on the Eco business. Think most people with 86s found them disappointing but entertaining however, so that was probably an assumption on my part.

Maybe worth having realistic expectations when changing tyres in that case. Don't think it will be transformative though it sounds like it's driving OP batty.

It's confusing. The Energy range are only available in 15 & 16 inches. Thereafter the Primacy range takes over but are available from 15 to 20 inches.

[bjb44]

trickywoo said:

Goodyear f1 assy 5 are the quietest most comfortable tyres I’ve had. I run two of the same car one on Goodyear 205/45/17 and one on continental eco contacts 215/45. The Goodyears are nicer.

Hmm thats interesting, I watched a tyrereviews video where he said he noticed more road imperfections compared to the PS4

Grrbang said:

I had the exact same tyres from new, and when they wore out I decided to go for cheaper Roadstones (free puncture replacements).

The slightly softer side wall caused a noticeable improvement in ride quality.

However, PS4s never caused vibration for me. Are you sure you don't have a wheel balance or alignment issue?

Yeah I actually recently just had balancing done, but havent had an alignment check. Will definitely have that done before I decide to replace the tyres anyway.