Range Rover Evoque - any good?
Range Rover Evoque - any good?
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Raymond Reddington

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3,025 posts

138 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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My Mrs is looking to VT her car as soon as its possible, we have moved house and she's catching the body kit on her car every day and the wheels/tyres aren't suitable for the state of the local roads either. It's getting a complete battering, so we're looking for something with a bit better ground clearance and take the opportunity to get something a bit more upmarket than her current Suzuki.

She likes the look of the previous model Evoque, and we've seen a suitable 66 plate one with 33k miles and the 2.0 150bhp diesel.

Are these reliable? Having worked with a guy who loved older Discos and RR sports, watching the regular pain he went through with them has put me off, but I don't think these Evoques are as complex, I could be wrong

I'd also be using this for a 26 mile each way commute twice a week so I'd like to know it will be a nice place to be for myself as well. Other useage will be the Mrs commute about 16 mile each way commute 3 days per week and it'll likely be the car we run around in at weekends as well. My commute will likely give the car all the opportunity it needs for DPF regen and we also travel regularly at weekends to visit family when we're not in lockdown.

We have also looked at the Merc GLA, and Mazda CX3/5, but not much else has caught her eye. We would possibly prefer the Mazda or other petrol option but petrol SUVs seem limited to less 'premium' options like Skoda Karoq/Kodiaq, Nissan Qashqai etc and we would like a nicer interior than those offer.

If it helps there is a JLR specialist mechanics less than half a mile from our house which could be helpful.

Cheers

Baldchap

9,618 posts

120 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Last numbers I saw from US JD Power the various LR products were three times worse than anything else money can buy for faults. They literally put a few lines gap in between last place and second to last on the graph to highlight just how utterly atrocious their reliability was reported to be. laugh

It made me laugh. But I certainly wouldn't buy one.

RazerSauber

2,882 posts

88 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Of all the Land Rover products I see at my workplace, Evoques are probably the least seen. That doesn't mean they're reliable by any stretch but they are the best of a bad situation. I suspect you'd end up getting to know the JLR specialist quite well. That being said, the 1 person I know who owns a diesel Evoque has had no issues with it but it only really gets used on motorways to north wales and back.

I wouldn't bother with a diesel, far too much to go wrong. If it was me, I'd be looking at the petrol Mazdas you've noted.

MitchT

17,113 posts

237 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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I read somewhere (possibly on here) about someone dropping something against the speaker mesh in the door card and breaking it. They took it to RR for repair and, to their horror, discovered that the speaker mesh was part of the entire door card moulding. I'd expect that kind of cheapo corner cutting on a Fiat 500, not on a Range Rover. Makes you wonder how cheaply made the rest of the thing is.

fflump

3,453 posts

66 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Raymond Reddington said:
We have also looked at the Merc GLA, and Mazda CX3/5, but not much else has caught her eye. We would possibly prefer the Mazda or other petrol option but petrol SUVs seem limited to less 'premium' options like Skoda Karoq/Kodiaq, Nissan Qashqai etc and we would like a nicer interior than those offer.

Cheers
Too small for our family but I've always liked the GLA45

Raymond Reddington

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138 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Thanks for your opinions.

Exactly as I thought really, but I suppose I had hoped they'd be better as they do look nice.

Probably not worth the hassle as we intend to keep this car for a good few years.

Mazda CX5 is high on the list, I think my other half can't get it out of her head that for the same price, she could have a Range Rover. Makes no sense of course, but she, like most people, like the badge/image/whatever it is people get from owning these things. I highly doubt the Mazdas would have many problems at all and I like the idea of the 2.0 petrol skyactiv engine.

I quite like the SUV offerings from Volvo but still looking for good value for money as well.

It's a shame that to get a petrol, you have to compromise on style and interior quality a bit.

The petrol choices tend to be cheaper as well, i.e. Qashqai/Kadjar, Vauxhall Grandland X, Seat Ateca/similar skoda, Ford Kuga. Seems harder to find a top spec one of most of these too. Leather and toys would make a less premium car nicer to live with every day.

littlebasher

3,949 posts

199 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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My Mrs is set on having an Evoke to replace her Mokka. I doubt anything will dissuade her from one, seems that it's the choice for the school run

Jazzy Jag

3,677 posts

119 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Unless you are doing reasonable journeys the DPF issue on many diesels will be a huge problem for you.


fflump

3,453 posts

66 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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littlebasher said:
My Mrs is set on having an Evoke to replace her Mokka. I doubt anything will dissuade her from one, seems that it's the choice for the school run
I'd agree IIWY as long as she agrees to deal with the repairs when they are needed ;-)

Raymond Reddington

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Jazzy Jag said:
Unless you are doing reasonable journeys the DPF issue on many diesels will be a huge problem for you.
I will be doing reasonable journeys, diesel will be fine but we would prefer petrol if possible. It does limit the choice unfortunately.

Raymond Reddington

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littlebasher said:
My Mrs is set on having an Evoke to replace her Mokka. I doubt anything will dissuade her from one, seems that it's the choice for the school run
They do seem to be everywhere now, which is what made me ask the question about reliability in the first place, I had thought that so many people couldn't put up with an unreliable car just for the badge......

fflump

3,453 posts

66 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Raymond Reddington said:
They do seem to be everywhere now, which is what made me ask the question about reliability in the first place, I had thought that so many people couldn't put up with an unreliable car just for the badge......
When it comes to the RR badge, folk seem happy to drop £60k on a 180 bhp 4-pot oil burner, which makes less sense to me than taking a chance on reliability.

Raymond Reddington

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Monday 15th March 2021
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fflump said:
When it comes to the RR badge, folk seem happy to drop £60k on a 180 bhp 4-pot oil burner, which makes less sense to me than taking a chance on reliability.
Agreed, that doesn't make much sense. The ones we are looking at however are a fraction of that cost at 4 or 5 years old, so directly comparable with the other cars we are looking at, and appear to offer similar value for money, possibly more due to residuals, if it weren't for the apparently worse reliability.

PistonBroker

2,707 posts

254 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Raymond Reddington said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Unless you are doing reasonable journeys the DPF issue on many diesels will be a huge problem for you.
I will be doing reasonable journeys, diesel will be fine but we would prefer petrol if possible. It does limit the choice unfortunately.
Really make sure they are reasonable journeys as far as JLR are concerned.

I ran an EU5 Tiguan for 2 years with just 2 amber DPF warnings in that time. Easily cleared by driving for 45 minutes.

The EU6 Disco Sport that replaced it - same engine as in the Evoque you've got your eye on - flashed up 2 red DPF warnings and went into limp-home mode in the first year. The only solution the main dealer offers is to replace the DPF each time at £1800 a pop.

WonkeyDonkey

2,577 posts

131 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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My brother in law had one for 5 years with no faults. He did mention servicing was expensive though.

Raymond Reddington

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PistonBroker said:
Really make sure they are reasonable journeys as far as JLR are concerned.

I ran an EU5 Tiguan for 2 years with just 2 amber DPF warnings in that time. Easily cleared by driving for 45 minutes.

The EU6 Disco Sport that replaced it - same engine as in the Evoque you've got your eye on - flashed up 2 red DPF warnings and went into limp-home mode in the first year. The only solution the main dealer offers is to replace the DPF each time at £1800 a pop.
That's a shame. As I say, I'd rather not have a diesel but it does limit the options when looking at SUVs unfortunately.

Raymond Reddington

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WonkeyDonkey said:
My brother in law had one for 5 years with no faults. He did mention servicing was expensive though.
Good to hear, thanks.

On a slightly different note, my FIL has just got the new 300 brake petrol plug in hybrid one and it's lovely. Reliability would be less of a concern to me if it were a new car under warranty but we are looking at used.

PistonBroker

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254 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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He said 26 mile commute!
Only twice a week.

In my experience, that's not enough. Too many short journeys and not enough long ones make the DPF soot up anyway.

Raymond Reddington

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Monday 15th March 2021
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It's 26 miles at night on the M1 so it's not exactly start stop around town. We also travel from northants to the south cost every other weekend and other half commutes on fast dual carriageway even though granted its not as far.

As I have said a few times, I'd rather not have a diesel but petrol limits choice of SUVs massively.

I have had diesels with similar use for 10 years with no DPF issues so unless they make these massively differently with how they regen then I wouldn't expect problems.

Anonymous-poster

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234 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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PistonBroker said:
Anonymous-poster said:
He said 26 mile commute!
Only twice a week.

In my experience, that's not enough. Too many short journeys and not enough long ones make the DPF soot up anyway.
What is your experience with the 2.0d or 2.2d LR engines?