London Hotels milk commuters
London Hotels milk commuters
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Davel

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8,982 posts

287 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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I see that it's reported that many hotels increased their rates last night, as people looked for places to stay.

Absolute disgrace that some people should seek to profit from the misery of others.

They should be named and shamed!

mel

10,168 posts

304 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Supply and demand. Not saying it's right but it's commercial reality and these are businesses. Its not the first time things like this have happened, I remember working on the Marchoness disaster and we had to be accomodated very close to the scene in a hotel, the rates we paid were inflated massively as they were for all of the rescue/salvage teams, it stunk but we just wrote it off against expenses in the same way that alot of last night commuters will have.

Lois

14,706 posts

281 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Thats disgusting. If anything they should have been opening their rooms for reduced rates or even free to try and help probably very distressed people.

mrs trackside

9,299 posts

262 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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It's disgusting practice.

The hotels that inflated their prices should be publicly named. I'd boycott them (even though I've never stayed in a London hotel, but I'm sure it will happen one day).

They deserve to go out of business.

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Mate of mine stayed in a London hotel last night... cost him no more than usual (advertised rates) and they even included the brekkie FOC.

JagLover

46,753 posts

264 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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It's a free market, they are in business to make money.

Personally I think they will lose more from the bad publicity than they will gain from the short term increase in prices, so it is a bad commercial decision.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Woah there. Before you go condemning the hotels first have a think.

1) Hotels in most big cities have a "rack rate" - its usually quite high.

2) To sell the rooms they discount. As the hotel gets fuller and fuller they discount less and less.

3) The person on the end of the phone has *no control* (often) of the price. Its done using a Computer System that automatically increases prices up to the rack rate taking into account how full the hotel is, an allowance for walk-up etc.

So what happened is that last night they got an unprecedented level of walk-up. The algorithm just did what it was told to. I would be ASTONISHED if anyone can come up with concrete evidence of a hotel charging ABOVE their rack rate.

What I WILL say is that they lost an opportunity to be seen as the good guys by offering all stranded people their best discounted rate - would have been a PR coup. Instead they showed that collectively they couldn't really respond to a changing, unprecedented situation very well at all.

Maybe some hotels did stoop to rank profiteering - but I believe they did nothing actually wrong - and will continue to do so until I see EVIDENCE.

sjg

7,676 posts

294 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Exactly. I still have yet to hear the name of a hotel that anyone claims to have been ripped off by yesterday.

Only "source" seems to be lastminute.com who just couldn't do the usual deals to sell of the unbooked rooms cheaply.

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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According to this one hotel charged £270 for a £65 room. That's a hefty rack!

williamp

20,393 posts

302 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Don said:
Woah there. Before you go condemning the hotels first have a think.

1) Hotels in most big cities have a "rack rate" - its usually quite high.

2) To sell the rooms they discount. As the hotel gets fuller and fuller they discount less and less.

3) The person on the end of the phone has *no control* (often) of the price. Its done using a Computer System that automatically increases prices up to the rack rate taking into account how full the hotel is, an allowance for walk-up etc.

So what happened is that last night they got an unprecedented level of walk-up. The algorithm just did what it was told to. I would be ASTONISHED if anyone can come up with concrete evidence of a hotel charging ABOVE their rack rate.

What I WILL say is that they lost an opportunity to be seen as the good guys by offering all stranded people their best discounted rate - would have been a PR coup. Instead they showed that collectively they couldn't really respond to a changing, unprecedented situation very well at all.

Maybe some hotels did stoop to rank profiteering - but I believe they did nothing actually wrong - and will continue to do so until I see EVIDENCE.



Hmmm. Interesting but..

Do you remember a reality Tv show from a while ago about the Adelphi hotel in Liverpool. The cameras were there the day the IRA threatened the Grand national and it was postponed. The woman on reception was bartering with two families, to see just how badly they wanted the room, and told the other "they want to pay me £xxxx. What will you pay?"

Disgusting and not fair. Still, at least she got a good bonus that month

gh0st

4,693 posts

287 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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anonymous said:
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As much as I usually agree with you, they are a buisness and not responsible for what happened. I would have thought though at the very least they could have kept their rooms at the standard rate. £270 for a night is just shocking!!!

Davel

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8,982 posts

287 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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That's the article that I was referring to and, if anything, these hotels should have shown public spirit and tried to help people - not fleece them.

I still think it's disgusting!

nutskie..

343 posts

266 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Was the congestion charge cancelled yesterday due to the lack of available public transport ?

Was the congestion charge cancelled today to enable the workforce to get into London ?

I have just checked and found that it was....



>> Edited by nutskie.. on Friday 8th July 14:00

>> Edited by nutskie.. on Friday 8th July 14:01

bigandclever

14,356 posts

267 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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yes and yes

Dakkon

7,832 posts

282 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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I stayed in a hotel last night, was not even going to attempt to get home. Price was as normal but they could not find the key to the wine cellar so they gave me glasses of wine from bottles that they already open at the bar for free

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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In other news, my brother in law's company went to great efforts to ascertain which members of staff would have trouble travelling home yesterday and booked hotels for them all (good on 'em). I guess if enough companies did similar things, there'd not have been a great deal of slack in the system for walk-ups.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Raify said:
According to this one hotel charged £270 for a £65 room. That's a hefty rack!


Funny how they're not willing to say which one, eh. Terrible piece of journalism. No indication as to whether or not that was the rack rate - a £250 rack rate isn't unusual in London. Sure - sometimes the room will sell for £80. Sometimes it will sell for £250.

No evidence. Lots of huffing and puffing. Once spurious example they're not willing to identify.

If there is a basis in fact for this story surely it would be somewhere in that article. Its not. The most concrete accusation is in the "Have You Say" bit (unmoderated shite) as "a hotel in Baker St".

Where's the EVIDENCE?

noel

586 posts

282 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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I stayed in a London hotel last night sourced through the net and paid the normal rate.

maxf

8,444 posts

270 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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gh0st said:
£270 for a night is just shocking!!!


I paid £220 last night - not sure what the standard rate was though. Just been told I cant claim it back on expenses.

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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maxf said:
Just been told I cant claim it back on expenses.

Harsh!