Lockdown project

[Jack.77]

fancied a bit of a project and bought some lml scooter looked like an easy project but been trying to work out what’s wrong with it which is easier said than done not being a scooter person
Automatic starts needs sorting but changed old fuel and spark flag and charged battery.
It then went on the kickstart a few times with easy start then cuts out and then the text time I tried it petrol went everywhere and all over air intake box .now doesn’t go at all
Also seemed odd that the spark plug was missing.maybe someone has already done all the same things

[Greg the Fish]

A scooter? What like a Vespa or Lambretta or something?

Best cure for any issues these have is a few litres of petrol and a match.

You can keep warm and you'll never annoy people again.

[Jack.77]

Greg the Fish said:

A scooter? What like a Vespa or Lambretta or something?

Best cure for any issues these have is a few litres of petrol and a match.

You can keep warm and you'll never annoy people again.

Yeah its one of those vespa lookalike things with automatic 4T engine.(2016 year and hardly used)
.took a punt of 500 quid on his heap of junk .cant even sell it as project until v5 arrives

[Rubin215 QFSM]

Check the fuel hose for obvious splits or leaks, then it's a case of stripping the carb.
My money would be on the float valve being stuck or blocked open by crud so it's not seating properly and then the carb overflowing fuel.

[trickywoo]

Aren’t those LML scooters £1500 brand new?

If you still fancy another project after this one you will be much better off with an older jap bike than a Chinese scooter.

[Jack.77]

trickywoo said:

Aren’t those LML scooters £1500 brand new?

If you still fancy another project after this one you will be much better off with an older jap bike than a Chinese scooter.

Hi yeah they are around £1500-1800 new but no vary in price
This one I got for 500 has only done 3k and very tidy .appears someone just left it for 2 years in there garden when it was due it’s first mot .not a bad thing but not built like a Honda but a convincing Vespa px copy with modern 4t engine .somehow looks like starter motor needs replacing even though hardly used
Ps it’s not as bad as Chinese stuff but still a bit junky i believe it’s made in India and Japan

[Krikkit]

Sounds like it needs a good strip down and check up if it's been sat for so long.

[Jack.77]

Did a bit more tinkering with it earlier.now goes for longer and doesn’t cut out as quickly but still not fixed yet .it runs ok for about about a minute then stops and floods engine then won’t go again for about half hour .did put carb cleaner down It aswell .i think the carb might need replacing as the bike seems to be constantly randomly flooding and petrol goes on the floor through the carb draining thingy .

[Jack.77]

Also trying to figure out how junky these engines really are (125 4T auto). the carb is keihin Japanese ,I reckon it could be based on a Honda rebranded on the engine casing lml

[Rubin215 QFSM]

The engine will be stalling when the float bowl overfills and floods it, the next step is fuel out of the breather and onto the floor.

Strip the carb and clean it before you spend money on a new one.

[Jack.77]

Just got it running for about 5 minutes and went through all the throttle speeds and now runs without easy start .still cuts out though without throttle and before it cut out with throttle.have cleaned the carb a bit but obviously no expert.seems as though the thing is all over the place

[Jack.77]

Also slightly confused how its a 65 reg but registered 2016.it must have been pre registered sitting in a shop for a year ??

[lukeyman]

'65 plate runs from Sept 2015 to March 2016...

[Jack.77]

That would explain it then ...
Is there any way of checking mileage is correct without any mot history?
As it seems strange 4 owners would only do 3k but I get the impression various people have trying and failed at getting it working then sold it back on

[trickywoo]

Jack.77 said:

As it seems strange 4 owners would only do 3k but I get the impression various people have trying and failed at getting it working then sold it back on

Four owners in a short period of time and low mileage is a bit of a red flag.

[Jack.77]

Apparently these are likely Chinese engines in these so probably a can of worms...seems a lot of money when they first came out (about 1900) when a Honda 125 could be bought for the same price which is far better build quality

Also been looking for another cheap project and it seems to be a common thing that sellers of 50cc-125cc machines can be completely useless or unhelpful .one of the usual things they can say it’s just needs a £15 part and easy fix and then the line that they don’t have time

[crofty1984]

trickywoo said:

Aren’t those LML scooters £1500 brand new?

If you still fancy another project after this one you will be much better off with an older jap bike than a Chinese scooter.

I really fancy having a play with one of those LML Star 2-strokes. Made from the same tooling as the Vespa PX, a hangover from an old licensing deal. Very similar to Royal Enfield up until 2004 or so.

[Jack.77]

are Kymco 125 bikes worth bothering with? Apparently they have made engines for Honda in the past but still look slightly cheaply made compared to Honda

[Jack.77]

Bike ready nearly finished and ready for mot now .next bike project arriving tomorrow not sure what I’ve bought could be a load of rubbish and not worth doing

[Biker 1]

Jack.77 said:

are Kymco 125 bikes worth bothering with? Apparently they have made engines for Honda in the past but still look slightly cheaply made compared to Honda

I know a kid with one. 18k miles & pulling strong! Its actually quite well made - sat outside for ages in all weather, & very little corrosion.