One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 5

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Continued from here:
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[LetsTryAgain]

Al Johnson,

[anonymous-user]

LetsTryAgain said:

Al Johnson,

What i don't understand is all that has been done, the economy, lockdowns, save the NHS, yet still one of the worst for deaths in the world....

''Experts condemn ‘phenomenal failure of policy and practice’ in handling of pandemic''

[LetsTryAgain]

The Spruce Goose said:

What i don't understand is all that has been done, the economy, lockdowns, save the NHS, yet still one of the worst for deaths in the world....

''Experts condemn ‘phenomenal failure of policy and practice’ in handling of pandemic''

Well the statistics could do with some serious examination to see actual causes of death, to start with.

[SteveR1979]

LetsTryAgain said:

Well the statistics could do with some serious examination to see actual causes of death, to start with.

Would you like me to get your tin foil hat ready?

[anonymous-user]

LetsTryAgain said:

Well the statistics could do with some serious examination to see actual causes of death, to start with.

''Evidence of the UK’s higher overall death toll during the first wave of the pandemic relative to comparable countries is unequivocal. England had the highest excess all-cause mortality rate among 23 European countries in the first five months of 2020 compared with 2015-19,''

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3348

This was start of year, things have actually got worse since then..

Maybe people like you is why he he still in power....

Back on topic, Boris is a knob because he CLEARLY is absolutely out of his depth, but he got BREXIT done....

[Greg the Fish]

SteveR1979 said:

LetsTryAgain said:

Well the statistics could do with some serious examination to see actual causes of death, to start with.

Would you like me to get your tin foil hat ready?

A local case, guy had tested positive, minor symptoms, did two weeks iso. Wrecked his car a week after isolation ended.

Deaded himself. As in PROPERLY dead.

Had a positive covid test fewer than 28 days prior to the crash.....goes on the figures.

[Blown2CV]

Greg the Fish said:

SteveR1979 said:

LetsTryAgain said:

Well the statistics could do with some serious examination to see actual causes of death, to start with.

Would you like me to get your tin foil hat ready?

A local case, guy had tested positive, minor symptoms, did two weeks iso. Wrecked his car a week after isolation ended.

Deaded himself. As in PROPERLY dead.

Had a positive covid test fewer than 28 days prior to the crash.....goes on the figures.

.... and

[yellowjack]

Blown2CV said:

Greg the Fish said:

SteveR1979 said:

LetsTryAgain said:

Well the statistics could do with some serious examination to see actual causes of death, to start with.

Would you like me to get your tin foil hat ready?

A local case, guy had tested positive, minor symptoms, did two weeks iso. Wrecked his car a week after isolation ended.

Deaded himself. As in PROPERLY dead.

Had a positive covid test fewer than 28 days prior to the crash.....goes on the figures.

.... and

...and he goes down as a Covid-19 death, where he had, in fact, fully recovered from the virus and his cause of death was entirely down to injuries received in a car crash.

If the NHS/Government can't provide accurate figures for ACTUAL cause of death, then they shouldn't be bandying these figures about as if they are the Gospel Truth. Comparison with other nations using a measure calibrated differently is pointless too.

Me? I'm just waiting for the daily death toll of "people who have died within 28 days of receiving a Covid-19 vaccination". Because it will be just as meaningful as the "within 28 days of a positive test" guff. And it will be happening. After all, we've placed over 80s at the head of the queue, so some of them will inevitably croak soon after getting jabbed, it's a statistical certainty. But there'll be no recording of deaths soon after vaccination, or if there is it won't be publicised for fear of "handing ammo to the 'anti-vaxxers' campaign".

[Greg the Fish]

Bot ticks every Knob point in the book of Knobbishness....

300 miles to 'get a kebab'.....during lockdown

No Licence

No insurance

Crashes

Wife and kids in the car

BMW

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/exeter-c...

[Wills2]

Greg the Fish said:

Bot ticks every Knob point in the book of Knobbishness....

300 miles to 'get a kebab'.....during lockdown

No Licence

No insurance

Crashes

Wife and kids in the car

BMW

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/exeter-c...

Utterly mental but I wonder about these stories about people driving hundreds of miles for a Macdonalds/kebab etc..more likely drugs mules dropping off and picking up.

No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.

[sxmwht]

Wills2 said:

Utterly mental but I wonder about these stories about people driving hundreds of miles for a Macdonalds/kebab etc..more likely drugs mules dropping off and picking up.

No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.

Not necessarily drugs, but they're clearly out breaking lockdown rules, and just give that as an excuse

[rotaryjam]

I find it most troubling that they chose to drive all that way to visit Coventry of all places!

[nonsequitur]

rotaryjam said:

I find it most troubling that they chose to drive all that way to visit Coventry of all places!

Now no one will talk to them.

[Hol]

Wills2 said:

Utterly mental but I wonder about these stories about people driving hundreds of miles for a Macdonalds/kebab etc..more likely drugs mules dropping off and picking up.

No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.

You haven’t been on SP&L lately.

[KingNothing]

sxmwht said:

Not necessarily drugs, but they're clearly out breaking lockdown rules, and just give that as an excuse

What rules?

[nonsequitur]

Wills2 said:

Utterly mental but I wonder about these stories about people driving hundreds of miles for a Macdonalds/kebab etc..more likely drugs mules dropping off and picking up.

No one drives 300-400 miles for a kebab, no one.

Only if they want to be skewered.

[anonymous-user]

rotaryjam said:

I find it most troubling that they chose to drive all that way to visit Coventry of all places!

Might be a coincidence that their family lives there as well...

[Limpet]

yellowjack said:

If the NHS/Government can't provide accurate figures for ACTUAL cause of death, then they shouldn't be bandying these figures about as if they are the Gospel Truth. Comparison with other nations using a measure calibrated differently is pointless too.

The excess death numbers tell their own story.

For the whole of April, and into early May the death rate in England and Wales was up by between 50% and 113% on the average for the same period in 2015-2019. If Covid wasn't responsible, what was?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortalit...

[LetsTryAgain]

Limpet said:

The excess death numbers tell their own story.

For the whole of April, and into early May the death rate in England and Wales was up by between 50% and 113% on the average for the same period in 2015-2019. If Covid wasn't responsible, what was?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortalit...

The governments response to COVID will play a part, to what degree, we’ll never find out for certain.
And it’s not excess deaths on their own which is important.
It’s the response, and the consequences (intended and otherwise) of the response, which should be the concern.
We’ve never behaved like this on the premise of a virus before.
Even the Gov’s own documents say they never thought they’d ‘get away with’ responding as the nasty despotism China did.
People who think they’re doing the right thing don’t use language like that.
‘Getting away with’ something is when you’ve done something wrong, and you know it.

What’s to stop them doing so in the future now the precedent has been set?