Cosmetics science cobblers on adverts
Cosmetics science cobblers on adverts
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srebbe64

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13,021 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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People must be dumb if they fallb for it, you know the sort of thing:

Contains 2% polyamenolethyldeminidotyropenitos extract to reduce the visual appearance of wrinkled hair. It must work on the gullible public because the manufacturers use the same methods year after year. Hillarious I think!

anhamgrimmar

1,025 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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warning: contains BOSWELLOX!

vixpy1

42,699 posts

293 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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anhamgrimmar said:
warning: contains BOSWELLOX!




I was joking with the bird about this tonight...the exact same commercial!

I mean.. are women THAT Gullible

srebbe64

Original Poster:

13,021 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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vixpy1 said:

anhamgrimmar said:
warning: contains BOSWELLOX!





I was joking with the bird about this tonight...the exact same commercial!

I mean.. are women THAT Gullible

Exactly, it's got to the point that the advertisers are actively mocking the intelligence of their customers. But, they will still part with hard earned cash to buy a sack of boswellox.

apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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'and now for the science bit' YOU'RE BEING RIPPED OFF! those chemicals do not exist, it's fecking soap FFS

srebbe64

Original Poster:

13,021 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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78% of those interviewed expressed an improvement in the appearance of wrinkles. I wonder who was interviewed? Me thinks, advertising executives with a large grin on their wrinkled faces.

scared but happy

24,147 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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srebbe64 said:
78% of those interviewed expressed an improvement in the appearance of wrinkles. I wonder who was interviewed? Me thinks, advertising executives with a large grin on their wrinkled faces.

Look at the sample size, You find it is about 100 women. That is so low a sample it makes the results meaningless! compared to the tens of thousands sold each year.

cptsideways

13,883 posts

281 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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It is truly amazing the gumph they come up with, yet somehow the buying public are completely unaware of the marketing crap being thrown at them.

Some of them are bordering on board room jokes between the bigger players, who can outdo each other with the most Boswollox in their adverts & get away with it

Good on them I say it certainly keeps me amused

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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My favourite example of the use of statistics in ads concerns the development of the Wiskas cat food commercials over the years.

Originally the ad stated "8 out of 10 cats prefer Wiskas".

Then it was changed to "8 out of 10 cat owners prefer Wiskas".

Then it was changed to "8 out of 10 cat owners who expressed a preference preferred Wiskas".

It seems Advertising Standards were at work here.

I often wonder why they don't come down more heavily on the pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo quoted in womens' hair care and cosmetics advertising.

titiany

2,122 posts

261 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Eric Mc said:

I often wonder why they don't come down more heavily on the pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo quoted in womens' hair care and cosmetics advertising.


Personally I get put off by loads of chemicals in products.

Especially the diagram ones for hair where little globules of magic formula 'restore hair from root to tip'. It's sodding shampoo FFS!

BTW - does anyone else notice Claudia's boobs in that advert more than her elastic face? It's very off putting, her bending over like that.

But perhaps it's just me who notices

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Eric Mc said:


I often wonder why they don't come down more heavily on the pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo quoted in womens' hair care and cosmetics advertising.


The guy who does the Bad Science section in the Grauniad has been after them for ages, but apparently they are just vague enough to escape prosecution by the ASA.

FunkyGibbon

3,858 posts

293 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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apache said:
'and now for the science bit' YOU'RE BEING RIPPED OFF! those chemicals do not exist, it's fecking soap FFS



Unbelievably in the case of Boswellox they do exist. It is simply a trade name for an extract from the Frankicense plant Boswellia sacra which contains such stuff as...

11-KETO-ALPHA-BOSWELLIC-ACID
3-ACETYL-BETA-BOSWELLIC-ACID
4,23-DIHYDROROBURIC-ACID
ACETYL-BETA-BOSWELLIC-ACID
ALPHA-BOSWELLIC-ACID

see here for the full list www.chromadex.com/Phytosearch/Frankincense.htm

edited to add - for the chemists amongst us here is the stucture of alpha boswellic acid...




>> Edited by FunkyGibbon on Tuesday 5th July 09:12

philthy

4,697 posts

269 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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titiany said:



BTW - does anyone else notice Claudia's boobs in that advert more than her elastic face? It's very off putting, her bending over like that.

But perhaps it's just me who notices


Somehow, I doubt you're the only one that's noticed

Phil

titiany

2,122 posts

261 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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philthy said:

titiany said:



BTW - does anyone else notice Claudia's boobs in that advert more than her elastic face? It's very off putting, her bending over like that.

But perhaps it's just me who notices



Somehow, I doubt you're the only one that's noticed

Phil



Well the BF didn't notice last night! (and trust me, that's saying something! )

Perhaps the boobage isn't aimed at men at all (much too subtle ) Perhaps they are trying to pull off subliminal messages to women: put wonder cream on forehead and all of a sudden obtain a decent pair of knockers at the same time.

Monsewer Gronwee

3,646 posts

270 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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What about the cream that claims it can attack all 7 signs of aging? Wrinkles, blocked pores, blotchy skin blah blah?

What about senility, incontinence, forgetfullness, arthritis etc? They forgot them...

Ecks Ridgehead

4,285 posts

257 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Raify said:

Eric Mc said:


I often wonder why they don't come down more heavily on the pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo quoted in womens' hair care and cosmetics advertising.



The guy who does the Bad Science section in the Grauniad has been after them for ages, but apparently they are just vague enough to escape prosecution by the ASA.


Raify's right. They couch their claims with tiny text disclaimers at the bottom of the screen that protect themselves from people who think and ask awkward questions.

I was one of the people who complained to the ASA about Cillit Bang and the fact that they claimed that "Limescale is just calcium that sticks" (it's not, that's utter boswellox, it's calcium carbonate, an entirely different kettle of limescale)...I now see the ad is back on TV but with the line "Limescale is just calcium carbonate that sticks". Sigh.

The closest I got to nailing a cosmetics company on something was when they said "78% of women noticed a difference in just three weeks", or something like that, and their disclaimer said "65 women surveyed"...and 78% of 65 isn't a round number, meaning that somehow only part of one woman noticed a difference. But in the end I couldn't be bothered.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

277 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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I reckon 'Bifidus Digestivum' alone is worthy of the collective culling of their entire marketing department.

JonRB

80,038 posts

301 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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What exactly are Pro Vitamins anyway? Are they vitamins that have given up their day job in order to devote themselves exclusively to hair care?

Raify

6,556 posts

277 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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JonRB said:
What exactly are Pro Vitamins anyway? Are they vitamins that have given up their day job in order to devote themselves exclusively to hair care?


titiany

2,122 posts

261 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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I don't get those ads for the yoghurt drinks either.

Feel better in two weeks or your money back.

Yeah right - I'm really going to wander back into Sainsbury's and demand my money back because I'm not feeling any different. And if I did, then who the frick would believe me

tsk. Are these so-called good-for-you bacteria scientifically produced, or are they naturally there anyway? If they are not, then why would I want to drink a load of chemicals? I just don't get it.