Brake Discs ……..

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Me Alec

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67 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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…. I have my (to me) exotic road car and it's really just foe high days and holidays. It has sat outside without turning a wheel, for 5 weeks.

The brake discs are covered in rust - ok so they clean off after the car is driven for a bit, but the rust and corrosion sticks to the alloy wheels and the nice shiny and just painted callipers ……..

Here's my question - are Brake Discs available in stainless steel?

[edit] - to read Brake Discs, not Callipers!

Edited by Me Alec on Thursday 31st December 13:14

paintman

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205 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Might help to tell us the make & model of the car?

Me Alec

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Thursday 31st December 2020
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paintman said:
Might help to tell us the make & model of the car?
My apology. a '58 reg 335i Coupe BMW.

PrinceRupert

11,585 posts

100 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Exotic...

Dave.

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268 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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PrinceRupert said:
Exotic...
Mapped....

hehe

Coin-Slot

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58 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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PrinceRupert said:
Exotic...
Don’t be a wker.

anonymous-user

69 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Not for road cars, no.

Chris32345

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77 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Have some custom carbon ceramic discs engineered problem solved
But probably cost more then the cars worth 😂

A1VDY

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142 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Chris32345 said:
Have some custom carbon ceramic discs engineered problem solved
But probably cost more then the cars worth ??
CC brake discs x4, new calipers and pads + hoses would indeed cost more than the cars worth.
I'm guessing (going by other models) around £4.5k..

A1VDY

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Thursday 31st December 2020
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PrinceRupert said:
Exotic...
The guy obviously likes his car and to him it may be exotic so why be picky like that??

A1VDY

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Thursday 31st December 2020
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OP, depends on the overall design of the discs but it's quite possible to have a set of stainless discs turned on a lathe to suit. Youred likely be starting with a lump of billet stainless which won't be cheap but will still be very much cheaper than CC discs. Combined with low dust pads it would be a huge improvement. I can see the attraction of SS discs, there's nothing worse than seeing rusty dics behind a nice set of alloys..

anonymous-user

69 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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A1VDY said:
OP, depends on the overall design of the discs but it's quite possible to have a set of stainless discs turned on a lathe to suit. Youred likely be starting with a lump of billet stainless which won't be cheap but will still be very much cheaper than CC discs. Combined with low dust pads it would be a huge improvement. I can see the attraction of SS discs, there's nothing worse than seeing rusty dics behind a nice set of alloys..
He could but stainless steel discs have a lower coefficiency compared with cast iron. The SS discs may not like the heat cycle so much either.

spikeyhead

18,880 posts

212 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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If SS discs were useful, there'd be loads of companies offering them. As well as being slippery, I'll take an educated guess that they'd warp if someone looks at them in a funny way.

A1VDY

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142 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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flashbang said:
A1VDY said:
OP, depends on the overall design of the discs but it's quite possible to have a set of stainless discs turned on a lathe to suit. Youred likely be starting with a lump of billet stainless which won't be cheap but will still be very much cheaper than CC discs. Combined with low dust pads it would be a huge improvement. I can see the attraction of SS discs, there's nothing worse than seeing rusty dics behind a nice set of alloys..
He could but stainless steel discs have a lower coefficiency compared with cast iron. The SS discs may not like the heat cycle so much either.
Youre right, they're around 20% less efficient so would require upgraded calipers (4pot instead of 2 or 6pot instead of 4)

GreenV8S

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299 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Ordinary brake discs are usually cast iron, which has friction, thermal expansion and wear properties well suited to this use. They are vulnerable to fatigue failure if overheated, so you might find people using steel disks in highly stressed applications. I don't think anyone would use stainless steel since it is relatively brittle, has a high thermal expansion and poor conductivity which all make it more vulnerable to fatigue failures as well as having a lower friction coefficient.

I suppose that being rust free might be more important for a show car but it isn't a good choice for a car that will be driven.

RobXjcoupe

3,351 posts

106 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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GreenV8S said:
Ordinary brake discs are usually cast iron, which has friction, thermal expansion and wear properties well suited to this use. They are vulnerable to fatigue failure if overheated, so you might find people using steel disks in highly stressed applications. I don't think anyone would use stainless steel since it is relatively brittle, has a high thermal expansion and poor conductivity which all make it more vulnerable to fatigue failures as well as having a lower friction coefficient.

I suppose that being rust free might be more important for a show car but it isn't a good choice for a car that will be driven.
I’ve seen gold plated discs on a show car many years ago. Was never driven, just trailered and towed into position.
Two piece discs with aluminium Bells are an option. Stainless steel wear face would be two hard and just polish up. Cast iron is relatively soft and sticky hence it’s used for brake discs. Electro magnetic brakes would probably be best for zero rust and dust.

talksthetorque

10,820 posts

150 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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You could get the wheels ceramic coated, which would help stop the discarded friction material sticking to the wheels, making them easier to clean off.
Not sure if you can apply it to calipers with the temperatures they get to, but worth asking.
Failing that regular application of a hard wax, the stuff you get in tins not bottles will help with cleaning the dust off.

tapkaJohnD

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219 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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MeAlec,

Won't deal with the rusting disc problem, but what pad material do you have? Some seem to throw off more dust than others, EBC 'Stuff pads, for instance.
A change of pad might make the difference. I prefer Mintex 1155, but I don't have a BMW!
John

finlo

3,938 posts

218 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Put some of those bags over the wheels like you sometimes see on laid up motorhomes.

stevieturbo

17,781 posts

262 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Or ignore all the bullst and just wise up.