Wood Burning Stove Expert - 87/16/24

Wood Burning Stove Expert - 87/16/24

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Doofus

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27,902 posts

179 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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The 'exhaust' on my Godin has broken off. Literally. I've got the replacement bits, but I can't, for the life of me, get the stove apart to remove the boken pieces and replace. I suspect it's damaged part of the flue too, becaue it's now at a slight angle off vertical.

Can anyone recommend an installer/repairer? We're between Rochechouart and Saint Mathieu.


Magooagain

10,583 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Chuck a photo up,I may be able to help.

Doofus

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27,902 posts

179 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Magooagain said:
Chuck a photo up,I may be able to help.

Magooagain

10,583 posts

176 months

Tuesday 8th September 2020
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Looks like you need to give it loads of wd40 then a impact driver to remove that rear plate.
What parts have you got?
A new rear plate and exhaust?

Magooagain

10,583 posts

176 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Just based on the photo,it looks like the stove has been taking the weight of the flue also.
Possibly that's why it's broke.

The flue needs to be supported by wall brackets that are screwed/fixed to the rear of the fire place so no weight onto the stove.

Is the flue all the way up to the top of the chimney?

Doofus

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27,902 posts

179 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Magooagain said:
Just based on the photo,it looks like the stove has been taking the weight of the flue also.
Possibly that's why it's broke.

The flue needs to be supported by wall brackets that are screwed/fixed to the rear of the fire place so no weight onto the stove.

Is the flue all the way up to the top of the chimney?
I've got the rear plate and the elbow. I can't remove the rear plate from rhe outisde, but I can't get the top off the stove to remove the back plates to get to it from the inside,

The flue doesn't need further support (according to the manufacturers). Breakages like this aren't unknown, apparently, as the parts can get damp if unused for perospds of time.

The flue is all the way to the top of the chimney.

Magooagain

10,583 posts

176 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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I would get the flue supported when you refit it all to stop it happening again. It's a lot of weight with soot and tar inside the tubes and more if damp.
I've never heard of a stove that takes the flue weight also to be honest.

Doofus

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27,902 posts

179 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Magooagain said:
I would get the flue supported when you refit it all to stop it happening again. It's a lot of weight with soot and tar inside the tubes and more if damp.
I've never heard of a stove that takes the flue weight also to be honest.
I'll probably add support, but Godin say that because the vertical rise is immediately on the exit from the stove, the backplate takes the weight. The chimney is self-supporting of course.

If the flue had any horizontal length before turning vertical, then support would be necessary.

Magooagain

10,583 posts

176 months

Wednesday 9th September 2020
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Doofus said:
I'll probably add support, but Godin say that because the vertical rise is immediately on the exit from the stove, the backplate takes the weight. The chimney is self-supporting of course.

If the flue had any horizontal length before turning vertical, then support would be necessary.
If the flue was exiting from the top of the stove I might agree about it supporting the tubes but as that photo shows it evident that it can't support the tubes.

Ideally the tubes fastened to the wall give you the option of being able to pull the stove forward for easy sweeping.

WyrleyD

2,022 posts

154 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Sorry, a bit late but I've only just seen this.

I had my Godin door repaired with new glass, new glass brackets and new hinge pins made at Robert SA in Rochechouart last July (2019), they do come out I think or at least they did for lawn tractor repairs.

Edit to add: Ours had a bracket just up inside the chimney breast and the exit from the stove was at the rear not the top. Just also remembered that our chimney sweep spotted that ours had cracked and he came back with the parts and fixed it, can't say what he did as we were out for the day when he didi the job.

Edited by WyrleyD on Thursday 17th September 16:38

Doofus

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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WyrleyD said:
Sorry, a bit late but I've only just seen this.

I had my Godin door repaired with new glass, new glass brackets and new hinge pins made at Robert SA in Rochechouart last July (2019), they do come out I think or at least they did for lawn tractor repairs.

Edit to add: Ours had a bracket just up inside the chimney breast and the exit from the stove was at the rear not the top. Just also remembered that our chimney sweep spotted that ours had cracked and he came back with the parts and fixed it, can't say what he did as we were out for the day when he didi the job.

Edited by WyrleyD on Thursday 17th September 16:38
I've previously replaced the door glass with bits bought from Lawton in the UK (where we mostly live), but have been talking to Robert in Rochechouart about a pellet burner.

Who's the chimney sweep? I've got all the new parts that I need, but can't get the bloody stove to bits.

WyrleyD

2,022 posts

154 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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His name was M Sellez (father and son operation), no idea where he lived and we don't have any of the bills now as we passed all of them over to the new owners. We always used him as he turned up un-announced in 2005 and came back every April from then on and I assume the new owner still uses him. I think it must have been a sideline and he did something else the rest of the year. Also now remember he replaced the flue as well at the same time as it was one of those flexi pipe flues and was knackered. Sorry I can't help further. Might be worth getting some help to remove the stove and take it to Roberts to fix if at all possible, shame we aren't still there as I've got a trailer and could have done it between us!!

Doofus

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27,902 posts

179 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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WyrleyD said:
His name was M Sellez (father and son operation), no idea where he lived and we don't have any of the bills now as we passed all of them over to the new owners. We always used him as he turned up un-announced in 2005 and came back every April from then on and I assume the new owner still uses him. I think it must have been a sideline and he did something else the rest of the year. Also now remember he replaced the flue as well at the same time as it was one of those flexi pipe flues and was knackered. Sorry I can't help further. Might be worth getting some help to remove the stove and take it to Roberts to fix if at all possible, shame we aren't still there as I've got a trailer and could have done it between us!!
No worries, thanks. I'd prefer to do it in suti if possible, because it shouldn't be a big job, but I suspect the previous owner filled every crevice with HT Cement, so I can't get the top off. frown

WyrleyD

2,022 posts

154 months

Friday 18th September 2020
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As an aside I'm glad we didn't opt for a Godin when we built the main house (the Godin was in a cottage across the courtyard) and bought a SCAN ANDERSSON 10 instead, which had been no trouble at all in the 10 years it had been in use unlike the Godin which seemed to develop one problem or another every couple of years