opinions on brammo/spectrum5racing new twin turbo?
opinions on brammo/spectrum5racing new twin turbo?
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boomerkk

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619 posts

255 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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first of all greetings

just would like to ask what your opinions are of the new brammo/spectrum5racing new twin turbo package for the ultima.

http://www.brammo.com
http://www.spectrum5racing.com

They claim a power output between 600-1300hp but good streetability with relatively mild cams.

the compact header package utilising a water-to-air intercooler looks impressive.

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Tuesday 14th June 2005
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Having seen some of their stuff I'd not hesitate in going to Brammo.
They have quite a bit of experience in building Ultimas as well.

uncle_git

15 posts

276 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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I'd asume these are not legal options in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

What sort of prices are they talking for a mid spec twin turbo package ?

ERP

25 posts

312 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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In California, if the engine block is old enough almost anything is legal

pib

1,201 posts

299 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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I wish Brammo provided more details about their cars like they used to with their builds. I am curious about the black Ultima they finished.

builder

1,225 posts

271 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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uncle_git said:
I'd asume these are not legal options in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.
True, if you put it into a production vehicle. However, there's a little-known law in the California Motor Vehicle Code that allows "kit cars" or "home made cars" to be licensed completely without emissions testing for ever! Let me know if you would like more info about it.

gtrclive

4,193 posts

312 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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I would love to know about that Claifornia Code.. What do they class as a home built car ??

builder

1,225 posts

271 months

ERP

25 posts

312 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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Basically if you source the major components from 2 or more sources you should get away with it being classed as an Specialty Constructed Vehicle.

I've heard of at least one case where someone sourced the engine and body of a superperformance cobra from the same dealer and was refused licensing.

Unfortunately the interpretation of the rules is entirely up to the DMV employees and the people who later do the car inspections, so nothing is guaranteed.

Also if you want an SB100 number you better be queuing up the day the DMV opens in Jauary, this year they were all gone by 4:00p.m. the same day. All the numbers come from one office in Sacramento and the phones get completly jammed up.

peterpsg

813 posts

263 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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Here's another place who does the TT's

www.nelsonracingengines.com/

even has videos to download and a pricelist...


boomerkk

Original Poster:

619 posts

255 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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uncle_git said:
I'd asume these are not legal options in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.

What sort of prices are they talking for a mid spec twin turbo package ?


Dunno about the prices.

The pic of the engine block they got at their website definitely looks impressive.

900-1000bhp in an ultima gtr would be awesome and terrifying but they're promising reasonable drivability as well

boomerkk

Original Poster:

619 posts

255 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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peterpsg said:
Here's another place who does the TT's

www.nelsonracingengines.com/

even has videos to download and a pricelist...




had a look at the site, they're an enthusiastic lot! huge hp engines incl. big blocks.

brammo/spectrum5racing have got more experience IMHO and they sell engines built specifically for the ultima.

does anyone know any other good builders for the ultima?

mclark

582 posts

265 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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Does anyone know how much these twin turbo lumps cost?

what an upgrade that would be!

I've heard of someone having a similar engine built by someone here in the UK for an Ultima, anyone on here?

CanAm-TT

862 posts

256 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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Im having a twin turbo lump in mine

Its a hybrid of the LS1/LS7

Boosted is building it for me

boomerkk

Original Poster:

619 posts

255 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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mclark said:
Does anyone know how much these twin turbo lumps cost?

what an upgrade that would be!

I've heard of someone having a similar engine built by someone here in the UK for an Ultima, anyone on here?



i'm sure it'll be pricey. turbo engines make big hp but as everything will be under more 'stress' and there's a lot more parts ie. intercoolers, piping, fuel systems etc., reliability suffers a bit and more things can go wrong.

Having had (and rebuild, twice) a high hp turbo (just a skyline tho., nothing major ) engine, i'm really thinking whether going N/A is better.

Of course, if the builder is brave enough to provide an extensive warranty then it's probably okay but i can't find any (lingenfelter is the only 1 i know- they provide a 2yr/24000mile warranty even on their 750hp twinturbo C5R engine).

boomerkk

Original Poster:

619 posts

255 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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CanAm-TT said:
Im having a twin turbo lump in mine

Its a hybrid of the LS1/LS7

Boosted is building it for me


nice! sounds interesting. care to enlighten us with more details? target hp? boost level?

gtrclive

4,193 posts

312 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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peterpsg said:
Here's another place who does the TT's

www.nelsonracingengines.com/

even has videos to download and a pricelist...




Boyd Coddington used these people to build a 1500bhp motor for one of his project, It was on tele only a few weeks ago here in England.....

As far as Brammo is conserned he's a great bloke, and a utter Car Nut. Have had some dealings with him, I would trust him.. I'm going to see him later this year..

builder

1,225 posts

271 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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boomerkk said:
...does anyone know any other good builders for the ultima?
Jeff Schwartz, Ultima GTR builder and owner, has a shop and builds engines/cars.

CanAm-TT

862 posts

256 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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boomerkk said:

CanAm-TT said:
Im having a twin turbo lump in mine

Its a hybrid of the LS1/LS7

Boosted is building it for me



nice! sounds interesting. care to enlighten us with more details? target hp? boost level?


From initial conversations with Mike

We will be running 16psi, and looking at 800bhp and 800ftlb

Oh and dont be fooled by the name, Its going to prove expensive to make the CanAm FIA approved to race, so we are going for a GTR, but someone already has that name

boomerkk

Original Poster:

619 posts

255 months

Saturday 18th June 2005
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gtrclive said:


Boyd Coddington used these people to build a 1500bhp motor for one of his project, It was on tele only a few weeks ago here in England.....

As far as Brammo is conserned he's a great bloke, and a utter Car Nut. Have had some dealings with him, I would trust him.. I'm going to see him later this year..


Yup Craig is a complete car nut. Brammo has something wicked brewing........ confidential at the mo. Wait and see