20mph painted on road. 30mph signs
20mph painted on road. 30mph signs
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Turfy

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1,072 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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All around London and the surrounding areas I've noticed in the new 20mph zones there are still numerous 30mph signs, as well as 20mph, painted on the roads.

Will it be a winning argument in court to point out, with time and date stamped photos, that the "sign said 30 gov"?

Haltamer

2,676 posts

110 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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It's my understanding that a sign "trumps" painted road markings, So 30 is fair game!

Heaveho

7,575 posts

204 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Whichever one has a red circle around it is the one to observe legally. My guess is that's the 30. Which means the 20 is advisory and not mandatory, although possibly sensible.

Pope

2,653 posts

277 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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The public info broadcasts I heard on London radio state that TfL have changed all ULEZ/Congestion zone London roads to 20mph - I would err on the side of caution and stick to the lower limit personally.

ETA: link

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2...

DaveTheRave87

2,155 posts

119 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Paint an extra 0 beside the 20.

NewUsername

925 posts

86 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Its pretty obvious what to do to be sure isn't it.......

Digger

16,968 posts

221 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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NewUsername said:
Its pretty obvious what to do to be sure isn't it.......
25 ?

irocfan

49,171 posts

220 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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the sign is what legal - what's on the road is irrelevant (IANAL)

RazerSauber

2,937 posts

90 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Signs are null and void, all speed limits are off. Knock it in 4th and boot it! laugh

I'd just do 20. How much faster are you going to get anywhere doing 30 in London?

martinbiz

3,703 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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RazerSauber said:
Signs are null and void, all speed limits are off. Knock it in 4th and boot it! laugh

I'd just do 20. How much faster are you going to get anywhere doing 30 in London?
Errrrrrrrr........33% faster.............biggrin
Painted on road is advisory only

T6 vanman

3,562 posts

129 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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martinbiz said:
RazerSauber said:
Signs are null and void, all speed limits are off. Knock it in 4th and boot it! laugh

I'd just do 20. How much faster are you going to get anywhere doing 30 in London?
Errrrrrrrr........33% faster.............biggrin
Painted on road is advisory only
I'm no Carol Volderman but 50% faster surely confused


from 30 to 20 is a 33% reduction

Edited by T6 vanman on Monday 23 March 18:21

martinbiz

3,703 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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T6 vanman said:
I'm no Carol Volderman but 50% faster surely confused


from 30 to 20 is a 33% reduction

Edited by T6 vanman on Monday 23 March 18:21
ha ha you're right, do hate a smart arse thoughlaugh

And to think I passed o level maths all those years ago

Heaveho

7,575 posts

204 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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T6 vanman said:
I'm no Carol Volderman but 50% faster surely confused


from 30 to 20 is a 33% reduction

Edited by T6 vanman on Monday 23 March 18:21
I nearly went there but pity prevailed! laugh

Pica-Pica

16,682 posts

114 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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martinbiz said:
T6 vanman said:
I'm no Carol Volderman but 50% faster surely confused


from 30 to 20 is a 33% reduction

Edited by T6 vanman on Monday 23 March 18:21
ha ha you're right, do hate a smart arse thoughlaugh

And to think I passed o level maths all those years ago
Year 6 primary probably.

martinbiz

3,703 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Ok chaps enoughgetmecoat

WJNB

2,637 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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20mph is quite enough in cities & most towns. With satellite monitoring, a Big Brother world & obligatory engine governors one day soon you will have no choice so better get used to it now. Just as we are all going to have to adjust to a new way of life in the current crisis AND after.

martinbiz

3,703 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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WJNB said:
20mph is quite enough in cities & most towns. With satellite monitoring, a Big Brother world & obligatory engine governors one day soon you will have no choice so better get used to it now. Just as we are all going to have to adjust to a new way of life in the current crisis AND after.
That must take the prize for the most irrelevant post of the day

Turfy

Original Poster:

1,072 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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martinbiz said:
WJNB said:
20mph is quite enough in cities & most towns. With satellite monitoring, a Big Brother world & obligatory engine governors one day soon you will have no choice so better get used to it now. Just as we are all going to have to adjust to a new way of life in the current crisis AND after.
That must take the prize for the most irrelevant post of the day
It may well be irrelevant but I agree it’s the way it will be.