M5 F10 vs M340i
Discussion
I need help.
I currently have a 2017 Audi S4 which I want to change. I was looking at a new M340i in Dravit Grey but then spotted a late 2016 M5 with 30,000 miles in Monte Carlo Blue which is £10,000 cheaper.
It's a nice problem to have but which would you go for? The 340 is packed with new technology and is four wheel drive but I've never owned an M5 or any M car and I wonder whether I should indulge myself as I'm only a few years off 60.
I haven't test driven the M5 yet though.
So used M5 or new M340i?
I currently have a 2017 Audi S4 which I want to change. I was looking at a new M340i in Dravit Grey but then spotted a late 2016 M5 with 30,000 miles in Monte Carlo Blue which is £10,000 cheaper.
It's a nice problem to have but which would you go for? The 340 is packed with new technology and is four wheel drive but I've never owned an M5 or any M car and I wonder whether I should indulge myself as I'm only a few years off 60.
I haven't test driven the M5 yet though.
So used M5 or new M340i?
I have had a F10 M5 for 1 year now coming from an e92 335i and 325i etc.. The F10 M5 is amazing I can't fault it and I have one with all the options specked as well. The car's desirability and resale seems to depend on the options when I was searching for one, it took me over a year to find the right one in my budget.
Bottom line is its too fast for me and I am already scoping up M340i X Drive, but no way am I paying 40k. When they hit 25-30k I will buy one straight away. Half the running costs and similar levels of performance. I did a recent service on my M5 it was the big one, £1100, same service on a M340i will be £450. Warranty costs a year £1k, warranty on my 335i £500. Every costs doubles even slightly more than double including insurance. Now here is the thing, I only drive on the weekends, when i sit in the M5 its an event and I have been thinking about it all week, they are special but with a price associated to it.
Bottom line is its too fast for me and I am already scoping up M340i X Drive, but no way am I paying 40k. When they hit 25-30k I will buy one straight away. Half the running costs and similar levels of performance. I did a recent service on my M5 it was the big one, £1100, same service on a M340i will be £450. Warranty costs a year £1k, warranty on my 335i £500. Every costs doubles even slightly more than double including insurance. Now here is the thing, I only drive on the weekends, when i sit in the M5 its an event and I have been thinking about it all week, they are special but with a price associated to it.
king should.BM Man said:
I have had a F10 M5 for 1 year now coming from an e92 335i and 325i etc.. The F10 M5 is amazing I can't fault it and I have one with all the options specked as well. The car's desirability and resale seems to depend on the options when I was searching for one, it took me over a year to find the right one in my budget.
Bottom line is its too fast for me and I am already scoping up M340i X Drive, but no way am I paying 40k. When they hit 25-30k I will buy one straight away. Half the running costs and similar levels of performance. I did a recent service on my M5 it was the big one, £1100, same service on a M340i will be £450. Warranty costs a year £1k, warranty on my 335i £500. Every costs doubles even slightly more than double including insurance. Now here is the thing, I only drive on the weekends, when i sit in the M5 its an event and I have been thinking about it all week, they are special but with a price associated to it.
Similar performance LOL are you kidding, the M5 will eat that thing.Bottom line is its too fast for me and I am already scoping up M340i X Drive, but no way am I paying 40k. When they hit 25-30k I will buy one straight away. Half the running costs and similar levels of performance. I did a recent service on my M5 it was the big one, £1100, same service on a M340i will be £450. Warranty costs a year £1k, warranty on my 335i £500. Every costs doubles even slightly more than double including insurance. Now here is the thing, I only drive on the weekends, when i sit in the M5 its an event and I have been thinking about it all week, they are special but with a price associated to it.
Buy an M5 enjoy it.
JMBMWM5 said:
imilar performance LOL are you kidding, the M5 will eat that thing.
Buy an M5 enjoy it.
Exactly M5 is a beast well sub 8 seconds to 100mphBuy an M5 enjoy it.
And isn’t it low 11’s 1/4mile.
No idea of the 340i but it cannot be close to those - it might seem it 30-60mph but if M5 was in 1st at 30mph and full attack mode against the M340i
croftsj said:
No comparison M5 to 340i, I've had an M5 and I currently run an F31 340i.
Can't fault the 340i, it's a great car but it's not an M5.
Running costs don't come close either!
The way these cars accelerate is really savage and relentless - or at least I find my C63 no turbo for road use I cannot recall any time apart from test drive where I’ve been beyond 4K revs it’s more than enough really. Can't fault the 340i, it's a great car but it's not an M5.
Running costs don't come close either!
It’s properly fast everywhere not nippy not swift but fast.
Welshbeef said:
JMBMWM5 said:
imilar performance LOL are you kidding, the M5 will eat that thing.
Buy an M5 enjoy it.
Exactly M5 is a beast well sub 8 seconds to 100mphBuy an M5 enjoy it.
And isn’t it low 11’s 1/4mile.
No idea of the 340i but it cannot be close to those - it might seem it 30-60mph but if M5 was in 1st at 30mph and full attack mode against the M340i
In the real world unless you are talking about a motorway and no care about seeing plod then the 340 will have the measure of the M5 on pretty much any road, especially at this time of year. Virtually impossible for th eM5 to go round any corner faster than a four wheel drive lighter car.
I had a succession of M5's (prior to an F10), Not one could I hustle round a British road faster than a reasonably powered hatch.
julian64 said:
You two are talking nonsense. All you are doing is comparing wiki 0-60 times
In the real world unless you are talking about a motorway and no care about seeing plod then the 340 will have the measure of the M5 on pretty much any road, especially at this time of year. Virtually impossible for th eM5 to go round any corner faster than a four wheel drive lighter car.
I had a succession of M5's (prior to an F10), Not one could I hustle round a British road faster than a reasonably powered hatch.
Not quite I know the F10 M5 is pretty much same 0-100mph as my own car which is lighter. I have not driven a M340i but I have a 135i. In the real world unless you are talking about a motorway and no care about seeing plod then the 340 will have the measure of the M5 on pretty much any road, especially at this time of year. Virtually impossible for th eM5 to go round any corner faster than a four wheel drive lighter car.
I had a succession of M5's (prior to an F10), Not one could I hustle round a British road faster than a reasonably powered hatch.
Looking at BHP per tonne a faster 140i is 222/tonne
C63 263/tonne (s205)
M5 299/tonne (F10)
I have an F10 M5 and i enjoy it, but i recon the new G20 M340i XDRIVE can be more enjoyable to drive on every day roads and speeds. One of the posters above compared it with the f31 340i. I had a e92 335i and you cant compare that to an M5 or the f31. However I believe the new one is a different breed, X Drive and extra BHP. See the reviews on youtube people are comparing the performance to the current model M3. Those folks talking about M5 is this that and the other I agree its a tool for sure. But on our roads and in our weather and for the pockets the new M340I x drive is not a million miles behind.
0-60mph the new 3 series is 4.2 secs, every time I take my M5 out and it has the best tires the Michelin pilots the traction control light flashes up. I do not track my car so 0-100mph is irrelevant as its beyond our national speed limit.
I do believe with the new tech, latest design, X Drive and half the running costs its a great car but I definitely wouldn't buy one now at 40k plus. M5 represents great value for monies at this moment of time hence my purchase.
0-60mph the new 3 series is 4.2 secs, every time I take my M5 out and it has the best tires the Michelin pilots the traction control light flashes up. I do not track my car so 0-100mph is irrelevant as its beyond our national speed limit.
I do believe with the new tech, latest design, X Drive and half the running costs its a great car but I definitely wouldn't buy one now at 40k plus. M5 represents great value for monies at this moment of time hence my purchase.
Edited by BM Man on Wednesday 4th March 17:30
Edited by BM Man on Wednesday 4th March 17:32
julian64 said:
Welshbeef said:
JMBMWM5 said:
imilar performance LOL are you kidding, the M5 will eat that thing.
Buy an M5 enjoy it.
Exactly M5 is a beast well sub 8 seconds to 100mphBuy an M5 enjoy it.
And isn’t it low 11’s 1/4mile.
No idea of the 340i but it cannot be close to those - it might seem it 30-60mph but if M5 was in 1st at 30mph and full attack mode against the M340i
In the real world unless you are talking about a motorway and no care about seeing plod then the 340 will have the measure of the M5 on pretty much any road, especially at this time of year. Virtually impossible for th eM5 to go round any corner faster than a four wheel drive lighter car.
I had a succession of M5's (prior to an F10), Not one could I hustle round a British road faster than a reasonably powered hatch.
The only issue is the standing start, but even if you handle the car gently from start, it then pulls so hard and so fast that most cars don't stand a chance.
Thanks for all your feedback.
The M5 is calling to me but I live in a countryside village and worry whether it is too big and powerful. How would it cope with the damp roads we have at the moment?
The S4 obviously isn't in the same power league but with the quattro drivetrain you can floor it whenever you want with no issues around any corner. The M340i would be able to do the same and has more power than the S4. I have a C43 AMG convertible which gives me the "fizz" with the sound it makes but I suspect the M5 is on another level.
I'm not worried about the running costs of an M5 but more stuffing it into a hedge!
In 40 years of motoring this is the most difficult car buying decision ever.
The M5 is calling to me but I live in a countryside village and worry whether it is too big and powerful. How would it cope with the damp roads we have at the moment?
The S4 obviously isn't in the same power league but with the quattro drivetrain you can floor it whenever you want with no issues around any corner. The M340i would be able to do the same and has more power than the S4. I have a C43 AMG convertible which gives me the "fizz" with the sound it makes but I suspect the M5 is on another level.
I'm not worried about the running costs of an M5 but more stuffing it into a hedge!
In 40 years of motoring this is the most difficult car buying decision ever.
markwharton said:
Thanks for all your feedback.
The M5 is calling to me but I live in a countryside village and worry whether it is too big and powerful. How would it cope with the damp roads we have at the moment?
The S4 obviously isn't in the same power league but with the quattro drivetrain you can floor it whenever you want with no issues around any corner. The M340i would be able to do the same and has more power than the S4. I have a C43 AMG convertible which gives me the "fizz" with the sound it makes but I suspect the M5 is on another level.
I'm not worried about the running costs of an M5 but more stuffing it into a hedge!
In 40 years of motoring this is the most difficult car buying decision ever.
You control the right pedal - if you cannot modulate it to suit conditions then for sure the M5 is not the car for you nor a C63/E63 you need awd The M5 is calling to me but I live in a countryside village and worry whether it is too big and powerful. How would it cope with the damp roads we have at the moment?
The S4 obviously isn't in the same power league but with the quattro drivetrain you can floor it whenever you want with no issues around any corner. The M340i would be able to do the same and has more power than the S4. I have a C43 AMG convertible which gives me the "fizz" with the sound it makes but I suspect the M5 is on another level.
I'm not worried about the running costs of an M5 but more stuffing it into a hedge!
In 40 years of motoring this is the most difficult car buying decision ever.
Skrambles said:
The last sentence suggests that the problem lies with you, not the M5. Also, speed-wise, the F10 is in a different league to the E60 or E39 ... in every respect.
The only issue is the standing start, but even if you handle the car gently from start, it then pulls so hard and so fast that most cars don't stand a chance.
I'm more than happy to admit I am the limiting factor in a modern car. I just don't believe all the 'different league' rubbish anymore.The only issue is the standing start, but even if you handle the car gently from start, it then pulls so hard and so fast that most cars don't stand a chance.
And I'm more than a bit sceptical that you feel you can make any of that power difference count on anything other than a drag strip.
But then I guess that's why this Is a discussion forum, and that's why BMW will keep incrementing the power in their cars so that people can brag about their ability to destroy any opposition no matter how ludicrous it sounds.
After all what is actually your skill in an F10 M5. You just plant your foot on the floor and take your hands off everything else to make sure you don't slow the car up. If you really think your skills are such that you can make a two tonne car go round a bend faster that a one and a half tonne car then good luck to you, but you aren't convincing me.
markwharton said:
Thanks for all your feedback.
The M5 is calling to me but I live in a countryside village and worry whether it is too big and powerful. How would it cope with the damp roads we have at the moment?
The S4 obviously isn't in the same power league but with the quattro drivetrain you can floor it whenever you want with no issues around any corner. The M340i would be able to do the same and has more power than the S4. I have a C43 AMG convertible which gives me the "fizz" with the sound it makes but I suspect the M5 is on another level.
I'm not worried about the running costs of an M5 but more stuffing it into a hedge!
In 40 years of motoring this is the most difficult car buying decision ever.
Noise wise the M5 is somewhat muffled if you compare (against a proper AMG) AMGThe M5 is calling to me but I live in a countryside village and worry whether it is too big and powerful. How would it cope with the damp roads we have at the moment?
The S4 obviously isn't in the same power league but with the quattro drivetrain you can floor it whenever you want with no issues around any corner. The M340i would be able to do the same and has more power than the S4. I have a C43 AMG convertible which gives me the "fizz" with the sound it makes but I suspect the M5 is on another level.
I'm not worried about the running costs of an M5 but more stuffing it into a hedge!
In 40 years of motoring this is the most difficult car buying decision ever.
In my opinion there’s a distinct difference between the powerful BMWs and the M cars. Everything is more precise, nicer to look at, nicer to touch. I had an E36 M3 decades ago and the rose tinted memory still tells me it sounded and drove better than anything since.
That m340i sounds good, but it’s a bit repmobile.
In your position, having see you mention you are in the country, I’d probably prefer an M3. Maybe an M2C?
The M5 is a very civilised car to drive daily and the stories you hear about traction....it’s all true ..l.but the TC is just doing its job and keeping you safe.
With most of the depreciation done I’m finding my (warranted) M5 to be a very cheap car to own and run.
That m340i sounds good, but it’s a bit repmobile.
In your position, having see you mention you are in the country, I’d probably prefer an M3. Maybe an M2C?
The M5 is a very civilised car to drive daily and the stories you hear about traction....it’s all true ..l.but the TC is just doing its job and keeping you safe.
With most of the depreciation done I’m finding my (warranted) M5 to be a very cheap car to own and run.
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