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What a shame the ‘glass out bare metal’ respray didn’t include a really nice colour change - Maritime, Mexico, even Gulf Blue, or many other sweet colours - would have really enhanced the individuality.
Midnight/Ocean Blue is very conservative, and it seems 75% of 993s are that colour- which can look dull and subdued if not sparkling clean
Just saying - missed opportunity IMO.
Midnight/Ocean Blue is very conservative, and it seems 75% of 993s are that colour- which can look dull and subdued if not sparkling clean
Just saying - missed opportunity IMO.
A car who wants one modded for a purpose. I imagine as a road car it will be tiresome but great on track/fast-road.
If they're done right then they have a market, albeit very limited, given most 993 owners crave originality and those in the market would never consider it.
It's whatever floats your boat buying at the condition and price point you're comfortable with. Do undertake a basket case to the standard of this will cost you money you'll never get back.
If they're done right then they have a market, albeit very limited, given most 993 owners crave originality and those in the market would never consider it.
It's whatever floats your boat buying at the condition and price point you're comfortable with. Do undertake a basket case to the standard of this will cost you money you'll never get back.
Armitage.Shanks said:
A car who wants one modded for a purpose. I imagine as a road car it will be tiresome but great on track/fast-road.
If they're done right then they have a market, albeit very limited, given most 993 owners crave originality and those in the market would never consider it.
It's whatever floats your boat buying at the condition and price point you're comfortable with. Do undertake a basket case to the standard of this will cost you money you'll never get back.
An interesting perspective, may I ask what specifically you think would make it tiresome as a road car ?If they're done right then they have a market, albeit very limited, given most 993 owners crave originality and those in the market would never consider it.
It's whatever floats your boat buying at the condition and price point you're comfortable with. Do undertake a basket case to the standard of this will cost you money you'll never get back.
At this price point and mileage, and bearing in mind the simply huge amount of work done to overhaul the numerous components (and the fact the exterior is to all intents and purpose stock/original) this seems like the best of both worlds.
Any prospective owner won't have to worry about putting miles on the car, nor about all the usual aircooled weak points, be they those that afflict the bodywork or engine/ancillaries.
Morning all! The car is mine, have owned it for about 7 years and it has been a genuine obsession to turn into the most special example of the 993 that I could. Tried to find all the best parts possible, and improve OEM where possible/relevant, and stuck to Porsche genuine parts for the rest. I took inspiration from a few other sources, and wanted to make it a visceral driving experience for high days and holidays (but in fairness it could easily be used every day).
Even the shiny low mileage examples are starting to need a lot of £££ spending on them, as various parts perish over time regardless of mileage (eg rubber bushes, seals, etc). So much has been refreshed on the car that it is about as close to a ‘new old’ Porsche as possible. I wanted to see everything that was ‘under the skin’ to make sure any and all issues were addressed, hence the bare metal respray and interior strip-down and re-trim.
Reading the comments above brings back a real sense of deja-vu! I debated with myself and friends endlessly about a colour change: either riviera or maritime blue. I was leaning towards riviera and ultimately chickened out on the basis that:
- a colour change cannot easily be reversed in the future (eg. interior could be swapped back if need be)
- I would have wanted a full OEM colour change which would have meant stripping even more of the car apart to make it ‘factory correct’
- I could potentially apply a vinyl wrap to achieve the riviera/maritime look whilst retaining the original midnight blue finish.
Maybe I was wrong, and should have gone for it... but it is actually the interior blows my mind every time I sit in the car. The original two-tone blue/grey was ugly and had not aged well, and was not ‘full leather’. So I set out to create an interior that was consistent with an OEM finish with some subtle deviations (eg the blue stitching, OEM Maritime belts and RS door pulls, etc.
Anyway, deposit taken yesterday from the first person who came to view. A genuinely lovely chap, real enthusiast who already has a couple of special Porsche models and wanted to add an air-cooled example to his stable. I will not forget his ear-to-ear grin as we stepped out of the car after the test drive.
I’ve been fortunate and lucky to have owned a number of cars over the years... but it has just hit hard how sorry I will be to see this one go.
Even the shiny low mileage examples are starting to need a lot of £££ spending on them, as various parts perish over time regardless of mileage (eg rubber bushes, seals, etc). So much has been refreshed on the car that it is about as close to a ‘new old’ Porsche as possible. I wanted to see everything that was ‘under the skin’ to make sure any and all issues were addressed, hence the bare metal respray and interior strip-down and re-trim.
Reading the comments above brings back a real sense of deja-vu! I debated with myself and friends endlessly about a colour change: either riviera or maritime blue. I was leaning towards riviera and ultimately chickened out on the basis that:
- a colour change cannot easily be reversed in the future (eg. interior could be swapped back if need be)
- I would have wanted a full OEM colour change which would have meant stripping even more of the car apart to make it ‘factory correct’
- I could potentially apply a vinyl wrap to achieve the riviera/maritime look whilst retaining the original midnight blue finish.
Maybe I was wrong, and should have gone for it... but it is actually the interior blows my mind every time I sit in the car. The original two-tone blue/grey was ugly and had not aged well, and was not ‘full leather’. So I set out to create an interior that was consistent with an OEM finish with some subtle deviations (eg the blue stitching, OEM Maritime belts and RS door pulls, etc.
Anyway, deposit taken yesterday from the first person who came to view. A genuinely lovely chap, real enthusiast who already has a couple of special Porsche models and wanted to add an air-cooled example to his stable. I will not forget his ear-to-ear grin as we stepped out of the car after the test drive.
I’ve been fortunate and lucky to have owned a number of cars over the years... but it has just hit hard how sorry I will be to see this one go.
Well done with the sale. Like you I’ve spent a fortune on my 993 (especially underneath) and if I was going to sell I think the thought of it actually gone would be to much though. 
Personally I think you did the right thing keeping the colour. MBM is a fabulous colour especially on a bright sunny day .
Personally I think you did the right thing keeping the colour. MBM is a fabulous colour especially on a bright sunny day .
Kananga said:
Morning all! The car is mine, have owned it for about 7 years and it has been a genuine obsession to turn into the most special example of the 993 that I could. Tried to find all the best parts possible, and improve OEM where possible/relevant, and stuck to Porsche genuine parts for the rest. I took inspiration from a few other sources, and wanted to make it a visceral driving experience for high days and holidays (but in fairness it could easily be used every day).
Even the shiny low mileage examples are starting to need a lot of £££ spending on them, as various parts perish over time regardless of mileage (eg rubber bushes, seals, etc). So much has been refreshed on the car that it is about as close to a ‘new old’ Porsche as possible. I wanted to see everything that was ‘under the skin’ to make sure any and all issues were addressed, hence the bare metal respray and interior strip-down and re-trim.
Reading the comments above brings back a real sense of deja-vu! I debated with myself and friends endlessly about a colour change: either riviera or maritime blue. I was leaning towards riviera and ultimately chickened out on the basis that:
- a colour change cannot easily be reversed in the future (eg. interior could be swapped back if need be)
- I would have wanted a full OEM colour change which would have meant stripping even more of the car apart to make it ‘factory correct’
- I could potentially apply a vinyl wrap to achieve the riviera/maritime look whilst retaining the original midnight blue finish.
Maybe I was wrong, and should have gone for it... but it is actually the interior blows my mind every time I sit in the car. The original two-tone blue/grey was ugly and had not aged well, and was not ‘full leather’. So I set out to create an interior that was consistent with an OEM finish with some subtle deviations (eg the blue stitching, OEM Maritime belts and RS door pulls, etc.
Anyway, deposit taken yesterday from the first person who came to view.A genuinely lovely chap, real enthusiast who already has a couple of special Porsche models and wanted to add an air-cooled example to his stable. I will not forget his ear-to-ear grin as we stepped out of the car after the test drive.
I’ve been fortunate and lucky to have owned a number of cars over the years... but it has just hit hard how sorry I will be to see this one go.
Congratulations !! No surprise that, FWIW, I thought the car a bit of bargain, bearing in mind the scope of the work you’ve had done to it.Even the shiny low mileage examples are starting to need a lot of £££ spending on them, as various parts perish over time regardless of mileage (eg rubber bushes, seals, etc). So much has been refreshed on the car that it is about as close to a ‘new old’ Porsche as possible. I wanted to see everything that was ‘under the skin’ to make sure any and all issues were addressed, hence the bare metal respray and interior strip-down and re-trim.
Reading the comments above brings back a real sense of deja-vu! I debated with myself and friends endlessly about a colour change: either riviera or maritime blue. I was leaning towards riviera and ultimately chickened out on the basis that:
- a colour change cannot easily be reversed in the future (eg. interior could be swapped back if need be)
- I would have wanted a full OEM colour change which would have meant stripping even more of the car apart to make it ‘factory correct’
- I could potentially apply a vinyl wrap to achieve the riviera/maritime look whilst retaining the original midnight blue finish.
Maybe I was wrong, and should have gone for it... but it is actually the interior blows my mind every time I sit in the car. The original two-tone blue/grey was ugly and had not aged well, and was not ‘full leather’. So I set out to create an interior that was consistent with an OEM finish with some subtle deviations (eg the blue stitching, OEM Maritime belts and RS door pulls, etc.
Anyway, deposit taken yesterday from the first person who came to view.A genuinely lovely chap, real enthusiast who already has a couple of special Porsche models and wanted to add an air-cooled example to his stable. I will not forget his ear-to-ear grin as we stepped out of the car after the test drive.
I’ve been fortunate and lucky to have owned a number of cars over the years... but it has just hit hard how sorry I will be to see this one go.
The new owner will be buying a very usable example that no doubt drives beautifully, with the added benefit that all the usual aircooled pitfalls and foibles have been addressed for years to come.
I hope you don’t miss it too much ( and that the new owner documents his ownership experiences on here ... )
Wozy68 said:
Well done with the sale. Like you I’ve spent a fortune on my 993 (especially underneath) and if I was going to sell I think the thought of it actually gone would be to much though.
Personally I think you did the right thing keeping the colour. MBM is a fabulous colour especially on a bright sunny day .
Thanks buddy. I remember your threads about the suspension work. Really amazing cars when set up right. Personally I think you did the right thing keeping the colour. MBM is a fabulous colour especially on a bright sunny day .
Slippydiff said:
Congratulations !! No surprise that, FWIW, I thought the car a bit of bargain, bearing in mind the scope of the work you’ve had done to it.
The new owner will be buying a very usable example that no doubt drives beautifully, with the added benefit that all the usual aircooled pitfalls and foibles have been addressed for years to come.
I hope you don’t miss it too much ( and that the new owner documents his ownership experiences on here ... )
Thx Slippy. You hit the nail on the head. When I was looking, i did consider buying a low miler but just didn’t want the residual terror (as a friend of mine describes it) of being afraid to add miles for fear of reducing its value. That and I really wanted something a bit more fruity than a standard car. The new owner will be buying a very usable example that no doubt drives beautifully, with the added benefit that all the usual aircooled pitfalls and foibles have been addressed for years to come.
I hope you don’t miss it too much ( and that the new owner documents his ownership experiences on here ... )
Was it a little too cheap ? Probably. But I knew I wasn’t going to recover the spend and I think the best deals are the ones where both buyer and seller both walk away happy. Also, better to price realistically and be firm rather than put up for a wishful level and never get any interest.
Thanks for all the enquiries, had a number of people ask and I’ve tried to be fair in sequencing interest. Had a feeling the first person would take it, and that’s exactly what happened. Luckily we have a lift at home so was able to show the buyer the underside.
Genuinely meant the comment about feeling sad to see it go. In some ways it is like the end of an era as it’s the longest I’ve owned a car for!
Edited by Kananga on Sunday 8th March 08:44
A fantatsic buy for whoever purchased. I think if you had gone Riviera (even if not the whole shell) you could have virtually named your asking price they look so nice in the pastel blues. At 180k miles originality really not an issue. Next owner can do it the car certainly deserves it. If Porsche made a 993 R this would is kind of be what it would have been like (with a 3.8 or 4.0 Ed Pink engine)
IMI A said:
A fantatsic buy for whoever purchased. I think if you had gone Riviera (even if not the whole shell) you could have virtually named your asking price they look so nice in the pastel blues. At 180k miles originality really not an issue. Next owner can do it the car certainly deserves it. If Porsche made a 993 R this would is kind of be what it would have been like (with a 3.8 or 4.0 Ed Pink engine)
True. Maybe I should have had more courage!!Love how these are called ‘narrow bodies’. Look like wide hips to me!!
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