Frank Williams / Patrick Head
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Here we go again. Frank Williams and Patrick Head complaining about the way BMW behaves. They don't like they way BMW is so public in criticising their team, so what do they do? That's right, issue an equally public retort about how 'unprofessional' a way it is to behave.
That's bad enough, until you remember last season, and the season before that, and, well forever really, how Williams have always been extremely public in their criticism of drivers.
Pot and kettle anyone?
That's bad enough, until you remember last season, and the season before that, and, well forever really, how Williams have always been extremely public in their criticism of drivers.
Pot and kettle anyone?
I think Jenson might as well stay with BAR-Honda next year or look elsewhere, it might be that Williams could be looking for a new engine partner for 2006. If BMW throw their toys out of the pram and decide to buy Sauber and I can't see anyone else around to supply engines except Cosworth.
RE: Engines - don't forget that everyone is back to stage 1 next year with the new V8's. If Cosworth get the funds then they could easily have the best engine - the RBR engine isn't half bad.
RE: Williams / BMW - I think Patrick Head & Frank Williams have had enough of the BMW criticism, especially in light of all the engines failures Williams have had to contend with over the years. To then turn around and start blaming Williams is a bit rich, and to make a point about the car's being slow starters is silly - the traction control is worked by the engine management, which is BMW's responsibility!!!
RE: Williams / BMW - I think Patrick Head & Frank Williams have had enough of the BMW criticism, especially in light of all the engines failures Williams have had to contend with over the years. To then turn around and start blaming Williams is a bit rich, and to make a point about the car's being slow starters is silly - the traction control is worked by the engine management, which is BMW's responsibility!!!
GarrettMacD said:
and to make a point about the car's being slow starters is silly - the traction control is worked by the engine management, which is BMW's responsibility!!!
In the good old days, when there was a clutch pedal and no stupid electronics it was the drivers responsibilty to get the car off the line......
aeropilot said:
GarrettMacD said:
and to make a point about the car's being slow starters is silly - the traction control is worked by the engine management, which is BMW's responsibility!!!
In the good old days, when there was a clutch pedal and no stupid electronics it was the drivers responsibilty to get the car off the line......
Yep, and don't forget that at one time, back yonder, drivers HAD TO CHANGE GEAR THEMSELVES!!!
That would never do in today's world of F1...
mojocvh said:I heard this. It just goes to show how futile all these rule changes that the FIA keep making are. They just don't understand well enough.
their development V8 is running at 20k already (autosport)
It's said that many of the V8s in development are already putting out the same power output the larger V10s were just a year or two ago because the shorter crank means they can sustain higher revs. So they've lopped off some capacity but the engineers have just whacked the limiter up and got it all back again (slight simplification ). So overall it's just been an expensive exercise with no real benefit.
LexSport said:
It just goes to show how futile all these rule changes that the FIA keep making are. They just don't understand well enough.
Yup, constantly tinkering with tyre and engine regs won't achieve anything when the aeros and grip levels are not changed.
Engine development will be slower when the power exceeds the ability to put onto the tarmac.
So, get rid of traction control, bring back clutches and manual gearboxes, and set a higher minimum suspension travel with increased ground clearance.
Then find someway to limit the aero packages effects and get back to some real side by side racing with overtaking etc.
Ain't gonna happen though......
aeropilot said:Nope. Going waay OT now, but I sometimes wonder whether it should happen.
Ain't gonna happen though......
F1 has become completely business and technology oriented. It doesn't look to me as though it would be possible to bring it back to real racing of the days gone by. So maybe GP2 or something should be done to make sure that it doesn't go the same way and retains driver skill as the most important factor. You'd then have two series that would be interesting for different reasons - F1 as it's the pinnacle of technology, GP2 because it's (almost) the best drivers fighting it out wheel to wheel.
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