global warming?
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manitee

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256 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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thinking about it, I heard that the Human body gives off enough heat in 24 Hours to boil something like 2 Gallons of Water from cold?, if this is the case then could Global warming be the result of the Worlds Population increasing?, think about it all those new heat emitting Humans being born at an ever increasing rate!, does this new theory make any sense at all or am I just mad?, it's just that I have never heard this mentioned before thats all, Possible?

manitee

goo-goo-gjoob

812 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Doubt it. Even if you put a bunch of people in a room the temp doesn't raise that much.

p.s. turbobloke owns the global warming threads

manitee

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256 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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los angeles said:
Erm, put me in a room with Hilary Swank and I assure you, the temperature would go through the ceiling. Yes, sir.


or how about Kiera Knightly?, yes oh yes!, (stop it you old fool this was supposed to be a serious post!)

manitee

speedy_thrills

7,919 posts

272 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Quite frankly I can’t say I would be that bothered by a rise in sea levels or warmer weather. Bring on global warming! It sure beat’s the ice age we are supposed to be heading into.

D_Mike

5,301 posts

269 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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some models predict the shutting down of the gulf stream as temperature rises which would lead to much much colder winters for the UK.

JagLover

46,750 posts

264 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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D_Mike said:
some models predict the shutting down of the gulf stream as temperature rises which would lead to much much colder winters for the UK.


I wouldn't mind a white christmas

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

282 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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:Jaglover said:
I wouldn't mind a white christmas


Don't fancy a white June too though......

Only upside would be if it was permanently frozen the train companies might finally crack the problems snow on the line......

cazzer

8,883 posts

277 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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I like when they talk about sea levels rising.
"and in 10 years time, London may be underwater"....and the rest of the country goes "and the downside is?".


-DeaDLocK-

3,368 posts

280 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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D_Mike said:
some models predict the shutting down of the gulf stream as temperature rises which would lead to much much colder winters for the UK.
Aye. We are on the same latitude as Canada, a country which as we know experience bitterly cold (and often fatal) winters.

If the Gulf Stream shifts we're stuffed. I mean look at us now - so averse to a bit of weather that the moment we get a couple of inches of snow the country grinds to a halt and everyone calls in claiming they're "snowed under". It's quite laughable really.

Tuna

19,930 posts

313 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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'I wouldn't mind a warm summer'
'I wouldn't mind a white christmas'

I think the worries about the gulf stream changing are a little more extreme than that. Desert-like conditions during summer and minus thirty centigrade in winter. Mmmm.. lovely.

Fatboy

8,267 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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-DeaDLocK- said:

D_Mike said:
some models predict the shutting down of the gulf stream as temperature rises which would lead to much much colder winters for the UK.

Aye. We are on the same latitude as Canada, a country which as we know experience bitterly cold (and often fatal) winters.

If the Gulf Stream shifts we're stuffed. I mean look at us now - so averse to a bit of weather that the moment we get a couple of inches of snow the country grinds to a halt and everyone calls in claiming they're "snowed under". It's quite laughable really.

Canada doesn't grind to a halt in the winter, and has lovely warm summers too - all we'd get would be better weather, and the ability to deal with snow as we'd be used to it, not a freak occurrance.

Tuna

19,930 posts

313 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Fatboy said:

Canada doesn't grind to a halt in the winter, and has lovely warm summers too - all we'd get would be better weather, and the ability to deal with snow as we'd be used to it, not a freak occurrance.


My grandfather lived in Canada a decade or so back. During the winter they kept a minimum of two weeks worth of rations stored in the basement for when they were snowed in. During cold spells, they had to get up every couple of hours during the night and move the cattle around to stop their skin freezing to their bones. Cars were modified (and drive heaters often installed) to deal with the extremes of temperature. Road surfaces were often just bare earth with tarred grit on them, as tarmac would be destroyed in a couple of seasons. You should have seen their heating bills in the winter, and cooling bills in the summer - and these were houses designed to deal with the extremes (which our houses aren't).

No, it didn't grind to a halt - it coped. With a lot of effort and expense.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Canada's a big place. The eastern seaboard of Canada (and the North Eastern seaboard of the US) is cooled by a polar current (the Labrador) which descends from the Arctic. If the warming Gulf Stream ceased, maybe the Labrador Current would cease or change direction - thereby giving the North Eastern quadrant of North America a more temperate climate?

You win some, you lose some.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 9th June 15:13

turbobloke

117,155 posts

289 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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If it's cold, rub two boy scouts together, apparently the coefficient of friction is better than with guides.
If it's warm, stop rubbing. Either way, adapt, cos it's not your fault and you can do squat about it.

If you think otherwise, welcome back King Cnut.

Models? Eva Hertzarentacar please, with the cream.

turbobloke

117,155 posts

289 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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goo-goo-gjoob said:
p.s. turbobloke owns the global warming threads

but are they worth anything on the open market

turbobloke

117,155 posts

289 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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manitee said:
thinking about it, I heard that the Human body gives off enough heat in 24 Hours to boil something like 2 Gallons of Water from cold?, if this is the case then could Global warming be the result of the Worlds Population increasing? manitee

Going for the post hat-trick.

Global warming is claimed to be due to the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide, this absorbs radiant heat at a fixed wavelength. After the sun has warmed the ground and it cools off, radiant heat emitted from the ground at that wavelength would be re-absorbed by CO2 and not escape. This is meant to be making the atmosphere heat up (it's not heating up btw). Any other wavelength either side would pass by and be able to escape.

The temperature of an object that emits or absorbs at that wavelength is well below body temperature, think polar regions not nether regions. So if every PHer got our hot date tonight and went outside to cool off afterwards, the collective radiant heat from all our hotspots would eventually escape past the 0.037% of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and out into space.

So sh@g away and forget global warming.

Lots of other ways we might think of as contributing to global warming are really local warming. Local cooling can handle it



>> Edited by turbobloke on Thursday 9th June 15:56

Fatboy

8,267 posts

301 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Tuna said:

Fatboy said:

Canada doesn't grind to a halt in the winter, and has lovely warm summers too - all we'd get would be better weather, and the ability to deal with snow as we'd be used to it, not a freak occurrance.



My grandfather lived in Canada a decade or so back. During the winter they kept a minimum of two weeks worth of rations stored in the basement for when they were snowed in. During cold spells, they had to get up every couple of hours during the night and move the cattle around to stop their skin freezing to their bones. Cars were modified (and drive heaters often installed) to deal with the extremes of temperature. Road surfaces were often just bare earth with tarred grit on them, as tarmac would be destroyed in a couple of seasons. You should have seen their heating bills in the winter, and cooling bills in the summer - and these were houses designed to deal with the extremes (which our houses aren't).

No, it didn't grind to a halt - it coped. With a lot of effort and expense.

I lived in Canada (Calgary, Alberta) for a year, and although it got down to -32C a few times (-50C with windchill), nothing ground to a halt and there was no risk of food shortage. Of course this was in a big city, but my unmodified trans-am never had any problems, the only precaution was the correct anti-freeze mixture...

muley

1,453 posts

310 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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I remember reading somewhere that a human = 100w (a lightbulb) of heat output.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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Yeah, that's about right. Cows are about 1kW. Having the cows in the house in winter makes a lot of sense.
goo-goo-gjoob said:
Even if you put a bunch of people in a room the temp doesn't raise that much.

Sure it does. Theatres, cinemas and the like always get really hot and stuffy; nightclubs get their own weather systems.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Thursday 9th June 2005
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cazzer said:
I like when they talk about sea levels rising.
"and in 10 years time, London may be underwater"....and the rest of the country goes "and the downside is?".




I think it was estimated that if the ice caps were to completely melt it would take 1000 years and the total rise in seawater would be about 4 feet, or something.

Oooh, I'm terrified, better stop driving my car/flushing my toilet/washing/eating/breathing just in case we all die