Will there be a new licence class?

[FHCNICK]

I guess it won't be long before EV's start being used as learner driver vehicles leading to people potentially passing their test in a car with only one pedal. Surely this will lead to a new classification of driving licence and a new generation of driver's without legally being able to drive a traditional ICE car?

Apologies if this topic has already been covered.

[milkround]

What makes you think they will have only one peddle?

An auto break would be so dangerous that no manufacture would consider it. The tech is already there to do it with diesels and petrols if they wanted. They don't for a good reason.

So I can't see a need personally.

[MB140]

Doesn’t the latest leaf have just one peddle. Take you foot off the accelerator and the brake is applied. It’s interesting that someone could learn to drive with just one peddle and then go on to operate a vehicle with more peddles. Does it require a different test. Who knows time will tell.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:52

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:53

[FeelingLucky]

MB140 said:

Doesn’t the latest leaf have just one peddle. Take you foot off the accelerator and the brake is applied. It’s interesting that someone could learn to drive with just one peddle and then go on to operate a vehicle with more peddles. Does it require a different test. Who knows time will tell.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:52

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:53

It boggles my mind that somebody could write that (without a fact check), and then post a link, to an article they clearly haven't read. As it states clearly that the Leaf has a one pedal "Mode", AND a break pedal for when it's required.

You're either trolling (badly) or spectacularly uninformed.

[The Li-ion King]

FeelingLucky said:

MB140 said:

Doesn’t the latest leaf have just one peddle. Take you foot off the accelerator and the brake is applied. It’s interesting that someone could learn to drive with just one peddle and then go on to operate a vehicle with more peddles. Does it require a different test. Who knows time will tell.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:52

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:53

It boggles my mind that somebody could write that (without a fact check), and then post a link, to an article they clearly haven't read. As it states clearly that the Leaf has a one pedal "Mode", AND a break pedal for when it's required.

You're either trolling (badly) or spectacularly uninformed.

Spelling lessons for "brake" and "pedal" should also form part of the Theory Test from next year

How would a driving instructor or examiner intervene if there were no separate brake or dual controls to avoid any accidents during a lesson or test?

[normalbloke]

The Li-ion King said:

FeelingLucky said:

MB140 said:

Doesn’t the latest leaf have just one peddle. Take you foot off the accelerator and the brake is applied. It’s interesting that someone could learn to drive with just one peddle and then go on to operate a vehicle with more peddles. Does it require a different test. Who knows time will tell.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:52

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:53

It boggles my mind that somebody could write that (without a fact check), and then post a link, to an article they clearly haven't read. As it states clearly that the Leaf has a one pedal "Mode", AND a break pedal for when it's required.

You're either trolling (badly) or spectacularly uninformed.

Spelling lessons for "brake" and "pedal" should also form part of the Theory Test from next year

How would a driving instructor or examiner intervene if there were no separate brake or dual controls to avoid any accidents during a lesson or test?

Are dual controls compulsory?

[HelterSkelter]

How could you even come to a smooth and controlled stop at exactly the point you wanted with one pedal?

[quinny100]

HelterSkelter said:

How could you even come to a smooth and controlled stop at exactly the point you wanted with one pedal?

Variable regeneration depending on the pedal position. The more you lift off, the more regeneration load which slows the car down.

You can drive most EV’s without using the brakes very often once you’re used to them.

[HTP99]

Not sure on other EV's however the new ZOE has this driving mode/system where you can effectively drive the ZOE using just the one pedal, however it won't come to a complete stop, it will slow down to the speed where the car will start to creep, the brake pedal still needs to be used to bring it to a complete stop.

[David87]

The new Tesla software update brings ‘one-pedal driving’, but this doesn’t mean they take the brake pedal away at the next service. I guess there will just be more people with automatic licences as I guess that’s what you’d get if you took the test in an EV.

[GOATever]

A big push with the sort of technology being developed where I work, is for LIDAR. This is a bit like radar, but using lasers, and forms part of the autonomous vehicle’s systems. Elon Musk believes that ( on cars ) LIDAR is unnecessarily expensive, and hard to incorporate into the aesthetics of a road car easily. Other manufacturers disagree. At present systems using embedded laser diodes are his preferred option. Autonomous Commercial vehicles, are more where the LIDAR systems may see more deployment. Now I believe Autonomous vehicle operation would almost certainly need a new class of licences.

[fatboy b]

I was behind a Jag I-pace the other day. Every time he lifted off a bit, the brake-lights lit up. Probably 10x more than an ordinary car.

[HTP99]

fatboy b said:

I was behind a Jag I-pace the other day. Every time he lifted off a bit, the brake-lights lit up. Probably 10x more than an ordinary car.

Yep, he would have been in "B" mode, or whatever Jaguar may call it.

[jonwm]

First thing I noticed in my phev 330e was the inability to coast anywhere. Wouldn't say it slows enough to class as a brake but its noticeable when driving a normal petrol or diesel after.

[DoubleD]

MB140 said:

Doesn’t the latest leaf have just one peddle. Take you foot off the accelerator and the brake is applied. It’s interesting that someone could learn to drive with just one peddle and then go on to operate a vehicle with more peddles. Does it require a different test. Who knows time will tell.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:52

Edited by MB140 on Sunday 10th November 02:53

About 30 seconds reading into your link


"The Leaf will slow to a halt and can hold itself steady on an incline without the need to depress a brake pedal, of which one is included for emergency or aggressive braking."

[Mr E]

HTP99 said:

Yep, he would have been in "B" mode, or whatever Jaguar may call it.

My leaf doesn’t illuminate the brake lights when it’s slowing on regen. I’m well aware it might confuse the driver behind if they’re not paying attention.

[HTP99]

Mr E said:

HTP99 said:

Yep, he would have been in "B" mode, or whatever Jaguar may call it.

My leaf doesn’t illuminate the brake lights when it’s slowing on regen. I’m well aware it might confuse the driver behind if they’re not paying attention.

New ZOE does.

[CLX]

normalbloke said:

Are dual controls compulsory?

You can take the test in your own car, so no, they're not.

[Dave Hedgehog]

HTP99 said:

fatboy b said:

I was behind a Jag I-pace the other day. Every time he lifted off a bit, the brake-lights lit up. Probably 10x more than an ordinary car.

Yep, he would have been in "B" mode, or whatever Jaguar may call it.

Bouncy mode, as the occupants get bounced around by the bad implementation of regen braking that jaguar half developed

[Baldchap]

HTP99 said:

Mr E said:

HTP99 said:

Yep, he would have been in "B" mode, or whatever Jaguar may call it.

My leaf doesn’t illuminate the brake lights when it’s slowing on regen. I’m well aware it might confuse the driver behind if they’re not paying attention.

New ZOE does.

Tesla's do too.