Aeroplane smallest !
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rich 36

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In powered flight, which is the smallest, manned aircraft (fixed wing), as I suppose an autogyro would easilly win otherwise, but for a rotor spinning overhead

'flying flea' I seem to recall looking at an aircraft museum once
any ideas ?

Tyre Smoke

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Eric Mc!

One of those barnstormer stunt planes?

They are fairly small IIRC.

roop

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The Cri Cri is the smallest twin-engined plane

http://flight.cz/cricri/english/index.php

rich 36

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Is there a formula about wing area to craft's size?
the rothmans team of the 80's had
Pitts specials for their display I think

TeamD

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What about those WW2 German rocket powered jobbies?, they were pretty small, no proper undercarriage etc as it dropped off after takoff and the plan landed on a skid. Remeber seeing on in the Science Museum and it looked pretty tiny.

gopher

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TeamD said:
What about those WW2 German rocket powered jobbies?, they were pretty small, no proper undercarriage etc as it dropped off after takoff and the plan landed on a skid. Remeber seeing on in the Science Museum and it looked pretty tiny.



Messerchmitt 163 www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163.htm

Wouldn't have got me in one!

edit due to finding a better site

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rich 36

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that IS... one small plane.

I was thinking of a fixed wing plane, so that fits the bill, no rotor craft, or plummeting without an engine jet powered rockets though

roop

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Awesome. Check out this turbine powered one...!

rich 36

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(Looks)
even smaller than first one,

rich 36

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did you mean this rocket thing ?

Eric Mc

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I would have gone for the Cri-Cri too. Those engines are meant for large RC models!

The 163 was quite a small aircraft although probably twice the size of a Cri-Cri. The Bachem Ba349 Natter was also fairly diminutive, and even madder than the 163.

The Rothmans Aerobatic Team (which operated from about 1971 to 1982) used Pitts S2 Specials. They are fairly small aircraft but about average for sport aerobatic planes.


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rich 36

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And they were bi-planes too,
I really meant smallest overall area width/height

Einion Yrth

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Dunno if any of you guys are flight simmers, but I found this for MS Flight Simulator 2002/2004
Cri-Cri

rich 36

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that looks a bit mad, what sort of range are we talking here, next model shop per tank of glo-fuel ?

8

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rich 36 said:
that looks a bit mad, what sort of range are we talking here, next model shop per tank of glo-fuel ?


They probably run off the same jet fuel as any other jet engined aircraft.

Nevin

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rich 36 said:
that looks a bit mad, what sort of range are we talking here, next model shop per tank of glo-fuel ?


That guy looks pretty tall as well, which makes the diminutive size of the plane all the more impressive.

rich 36

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Someone here said that Mig's were routinely flown using diesel by the ruskies'

8

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rich 36 said:
Is there a formula about wing area to craft's size?
the rothmans team of the 80's had
Pitts specials for their display I think



No.

Wing size is more dependent on operating speed. Lift can be related to wing size but the lift you need depends on aircraft mass and not the size.



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rich 36

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How then is a bi-plane used to good effect aerobatically, or does it matter in comparrison to single wing aircraft ?

cy88

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the bumblebee?