Brightest (and not so bright) F1 drivers
Brightest (and not so bright) F1 drivers
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Stuart70

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4,115 posts

206 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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A bit of debate, hopefully, on the way to GP1001.

Who are the smartest GP drivers on the grid and who, perhaps, should not be allowed out on their own.

A comedy topic, as F1 is a physical skill. However in the increasingly complex hybrid world, some level of “smarts” must help in understanding how to get the best out of the car. Or does it?

Any views?...

Evercross

6,883 posts

87 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Kvyat might have yo-yo form on the track but he's a bit of a brain-box out of the car. Very well read and speaks five languages.

Stuart70

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Friday 26th April 2019
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Evercross said:
Kvyat might have yo-yo form on the track but he's a bit of a brain-box out of the car. Very well read and speaks five languages.
That is interesting. I guess there are a good few of the drivers who are multilingual. Vettel’s Italian is pretty shocking, mind you. Rosberg seems to have form on a decent grasp of languages. I think all of the “English as a second plus” language drivers make a decent fist of it in interviews. I guess that is the requirement of international sponsorship.

Back in the day some of the British drivers seemed to even struggle with English...

As an aside, has Danny Ricc learned French recently?!

thegreenhell

21,761 posts

242 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Stuart70 said:
Rosberg seems to have form on a decent grasp of languages.
Being brought up in Monaco with German and Finnish parentage, it shouldn't be a surprise. He also has an engineering degree, and by all accounts was highly regarded by the engineers he worked with as a driver for his technical understanding.

NAS

2,573 posts

254 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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There are 2 drivers that speak the combo fluent Dutch, English & German.

One obvious one : Verstappen.

One not-so-obvious : Hülkenberg.

Kizmiaz

230 posts

111 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Not so bright : Baku truck driver.

StevieBee

14,805 posts

278 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Language capacity isn't an indicator of intellect. We Brits are the only ones that struggle with a second languages. A lot - probably most - people around the world are at least dual language by default.

Marc Gene was doing an MSc in Accountancy or something similar whist he was completing in F1

Eddie Irvine was (and is) a very astute operator. Same with Jody Scheckter

Niki Lauda has to fall into this category too.

I think it fair to say that previous generations of drivers had a greater breadth of life experience prior to and during their time in F1. Drivers today start far younger and become completely isolated from much of the reality that shapes the rest of us. You see this in a lot of professional sports.


37chevy

3,280 posts

179 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Bright, Lewis Hamilton, not so bright, fernando Alonso.

Stuart70

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206 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Kizmiaz said:
Not so bright : Baku truck driver.
Yup, I think there might be a case of “don’t come Monday” for him.

I suspect career counselling is pretty short and sharp in Baku...

Steamer

14,103 posts

236 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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thegreenhell said:
Stuart70 said:
Rosberg seems to have form on a decent grasp of languages.
Being brought up in Monaco with German and Finnish parentage, it shouldn't be a surprise. He also has an engineering degree, and by all accounts was highly regarded by the engineers he worked with as a driver for his technical understanding.
Rosberg sounds like he has a few business interests now he is away from the track too. Very bright I would say.

Also got the impression Schumacher was a very intelligent (or may just calculated) chap.

sparta6

4,359 posts

123 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Steamer said:
Rosberg sounds like he has a few business interests now he is away from the track too. Very bright I would say.

Also got the impression Schumacher was a very intelligent (or may just calculated) chap.
Ross Brawn agrees with you

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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StevieBee said:
Language capacity isn't an indicator of intellect. We Brits are the only ones that struggle with a second languages. A lot - probably most - people around the world are at least dual language by default.

Marc Gene was doing an MSc in Accountancy or something similar whist he was completing in F1

Eddie Irvine was (and is) a very astute operator. Same with Jody Scheckter

Niki Lauda has to fall into this category too.

I think it fair to say that previous generations of drivers had a greater breadth of life experience prior to and during their time in F1. Drivers today start far younger and become completely isolated from much of the reality that shapes the rest of us. You see this in a lot of professional sports.
Speak for yourself, but I know plenty of Brits that speak more than one language.

It’s hardly surprising that fewer Brits do than other Nationalities given that English is one of the most common first and, consequently, second languages in the planet. It’s currently the most studied, as a foreign language.

Brits are better at it than Americans, which is a better comparison than many other countries, given that they have English as their main language too.

It’s also the most commonly used language in international trade, sport and many other world wide industries. Ever heard a pilot speak anything else?


wibble cb

4,085 posts

230 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Yes, French, but I live in Canada!!

matrignano

4,672 posts

233 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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REALIST123 said:
Brits are better at it than Americans, which is a better comparison than many other countries, given that they have English as their main language too.
Are you sure? I’d wager a lot of Americans speak a 2nd language, given the number of immigrants there. Spanish seems an obvious one

Stuart70

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206 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Irvine always struck me as a player in all respects.

I didn’t know about Gene and a degree in accountancy. Wow, when F1 gets too exciting, become an accountant!....

Who were the “not so brights”, I wonder?...

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Jonathan Palmer was presumably pretty bright.

coppice

9,512 posts

167 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Peter Revson , Niki Lauda,, Nico Rosberg and Phil Hill are obvious examples of the former. And Martin Brundle is nobody's fool, nor was Mark Donohue .

Vittorio Brambilla was reputedly not that quick on the uptake but I suspect he is far from unique in that respect ...

F1 drivers' key problem seems not to be a lack of brains, but an inability to apply their own to anything other than their own self interest

Stuart70

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Saturday 27th April 2019
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coppice said:
Peter Revson , Niki Lauda,, Nico Rosberg and Phil Hill are obvious examples of the former. And Martin Brundle is nobody's fool, nor was Mark Donohue .

Vittorio Brambilla was reputedly not that quick on the uptake but I suspect he is far from unique in that respect ...

F1 drivers' key problem seems not to be a lack of brains, but an inability to apply their own to anything other than their own self interest
I had to look up Brambilla; “punch and crunch”. He sounds like a thug!

coppice

9,512 posts

167 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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'The Monza Gorilla' , he was called , and was the driver who , on winning his sole Grand Prix (Austria, 1975 in March 751) waved so deliriously to the crowd that he promptly binned it on the wet track .What a legend he was . .

Mind you , Mansell notoriously started waving to the crowd before he'd even won in Canada 1991 and stalled the car. Doubtless it was someone else's fault . It usually was .

entropy

6,236 posts

226 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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coppice said:
Mind you , Mansell notoriously started waving to the crowd before he'd even won in Canada 1991 and stalled the car. Doubtless it was someone else's fault . It usually was .
The Renault's alternator doesn't like the car in high gear and low revs. Some years ago they replicated the problem when Damon Hill was supposed to do demo runs in one of his old cars.