Anyone driven the 1.0 TFSI
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I've tried it in quite a few cars now. This week I'm in a Fabia with the 110PS version mated to a 6-speed Manual gearbox. The economy is fantastic, it's never once dipped below 45mpg and gets well into the 50s on the motorway. Performance is not bad, there is a tiny bit of lag when you initially pull away but once you're moving it can easily keep up with the flow of traffic.
Last year I had it in a new Ibiza in 95PS form and new A1 with 116PS. Again seemed to suit nicely, possibly worked better in those cars as they're on the latest MQB AO chassis with sharper handling and better refinement. It feels a little 'raw' at times in the Fabia. Surprisingly little difference in performance even though the power outputs all differ, but the Ibiza has been marginally the most economical.
The only Automatic 1.0T I've driven was the old A1 in 95PS form. Unfortunately this was my least favourite application. That car had the 7-speed DSG 'box and it seemed to be forever swapping between gears and was massively laggy at times. I think the Manual definitely works better as they're all small and light cars.
All the new Golfs and A3s I've driven have had larger engines. But I'd imagine the 1.0 TFSI would still work in the higher power output version, and is probably a better choice than the 1.6 TDI. It's easily the best small engine VAG have released in years as it's surprisingly fun to drive and consistently economical.
Last year I had it in a new Ibiza in 95PS form and new A1 with 116PS. Again seemed to suit nicely, possibly worked better in those cars as they're on the latest MQB AO chassis with sharper handling and better refinement. It feels a little 'raw' at times in the Fabia. Surprisingly little difference in performance even though the power outputs all differ, but the Ibiza has been marginally the most economical.
The only Automatic 1.0T I've driven was the old A1 in 95PS form. Unfortunately this was my least favourite application. That car had the 7-speed DSG 'box and it seemed to be forever swapping between gears and was massively laggy at times. I think the Manual definitely works better as they're all small and light cars.
All the new Golfs and A3s I've driven have had larger engines. But I'd imagine the 1.0 TFSI would still work in the higher power output version, and is probably a better choice than the 1.6 TDI. It's easily the best small engine VAG have released in years as it's surprisingly fun to drive and consistently economical.
Yep, the Mrs has a newish A3 with the 1.0TFSI and S-tronic. It's great, pretty darn nippy, never really feels under powered and we get 50's mpg on the motorway. We've done several holidays in it loaded up and whilst the gearbox is kept busy it's been plenty quick enough. I prefer to use the gearbox in manual mode to keep the revs high-ish to make up for the lack of torque.
Edited by Juicetin1 on Tuesday 5th March 13:57
I've got a DSG 115 Arona. On the move it goes fine. DSG is just average for me though. A smidge clunky, small delay in up take from standing and it doesn't seem to work that well with the stop start. If you go from brake to accelerator or vice versa quickly it doesn't quite respond quickly enough. This is all mainly in the regular eco mode. I found the engine loosens up and becomes more economical with miles. Now over 5k on journeys where I'd get low 50s to mid 50s at best I'm now comfortably getting mid 50s and can even regularly get into low to mid 60s.
Not sure if this helps but I've driven the 95PS and 115PS 1.0TFSI in a VW Polo, both with DSG.
Both are fine when on the move, both return fantastic economy. The 7 speed DSG is nice and smooth and the ratios means you'll get great MPG on a run.
In the 95 especially, the lag was pretty awful. For example; approaching a T junction on the brake, see it's clear so then go to accelerate, it was a good 2 seconds before I got any power. The salesman said that he avoids this scenario by making sure he's in S on the DSG as it means the car will pull away faster. I tried it and whilst acceptable, it's not a perfect solution.
The 115 just felt better all round. I checked today and the MPG was 27 for a journey of 3 miles in stop start traffic that took 25 minutes. In my book, that's pretty good. Expect to double that when on the motorway at 70. DSG felt great, as ever and didn't notice the lag as much as I did in the 95.
I would definitely recommend getting a manual gearbox with this engine as you're in full control. You loose a gear so motorway economy won't be as good but I think you'll be thankful round town for a manual where you're likely to notice the time it takes to think.
Both are fine when on the move, both return fantastic economy. The 7 speed DSG is nice and smooth and the ratios means you'll get great MPG on a run.
In the 95 especially, the lag was pretty awful. For example; approaching a T junction on the brake, see it's clear so then go to accelerate, it was a good 2 seconds before I got any power. The salesman said that he avoids this scenario by making sure he's in S on the DSG as it means the car will pull away faster. I tried it and whilst acceptable, it's not a perfect solution.
The 115 just felt better all round. I checked today and the MPG was 27 for a journey of 3 miles in stop start traffic that took 25 minutes. In my book, that's pretty good. Expect to double that when on the motorway at 70. DSG felt great, as ever and didn't notice the lag as much as I did in the 95.
I would definitely recommend getting a manual gearbox with this engine as you're in full control. You loose a gear so motorway economy won't be as good but I think you'll be thankful round town for a manual where you're likely to notice the time it takes to think.
ashleyman said:
Not sure if this helps but I've driven the 95PS and 115PS 1.0TFSI in a VW Polo, both with DSG.
In the 95 especially, the lag was pretty awful. For example; approaching a T junction on the brake, see it's clear so then go to accelerate, it was a good 2 seconds before I got any power. The salesman said that he avoids this scenario by making sure he's in S on the DSG as it means the car will pull away faster. I tried it and whilst acceptable, it's not a perfect solution.
You do learn to drive the DSG the more you use it, I know what you mean by the "pulling away from junction" scenario, the trick here is to put your foot half down on the pedal and not fully down, it pulls away pretty much immediately doing that rather than the long delay if you flatten the pedal. Or you can use the manual DSG mode in which case it is instant. In the 95 especially, the lag was pretty awful. For example; approaching a T junction on the brake, see it's clear so then go to accelerate, it was a good 2 seconds before I got any power. The salesman said that he avoids this scenario by making sure he's in S on the DSG as it means the car will pull away faster. I tried it and whilst acceptable, it's not a perfect solution.
Having driven the DSG (S-tronic) extensively now i've got a lot more used to it's intricacies and would probably spec it on my own car next.
Juicetin1 said:
ashleyman said:
Not sure if this helps but I've driven the 95PS and 115PS 1.0TFSI in a VW Polo, both with DSG.
In the 95 especially, the lag was pretty awful. For example; approaching a T junction on the brake, see it's clear so then go to accelerate, it was a good 2 seconds before I got any power. The salesman said that he avoids this scenario by making sure he's in S on the DSG as it means the car will pull away faster. I tried it and whilst acceptable, it's not a perfect solution.
You do learn to drive the DSG the more you use it, I know what you mean by the "pulling away from junction" scenario, the trick here is to put your foot half down on the pedal and not fully down, it pulls away pretty much immediately doing that rather than the long delay if you flatten the pedal. Or you can use the manual DSG mode in which case it is instant. In the 95 especially, the lag was pretty awful. For example; approaching a T junction on the brake, see it's clear so then go to accelerate, it was a good 2 seconds before I got any power. The salesman said that he avoids this scenario by making sure he's in S on the DSG as it means the car will pull away faster. I tried it and whilst acceptable, it's not a perfect solution.
Having driven the DSG (S-tronic) extensively now i've got a lot more used to it's intricacies and would probably spec it on my own car next.
I think if you want swift driving then DSG in manual is the way to go, at least you can force behaviour that way.
Edited by ashleyman on Friday 8th March 13:45
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