Off Topic - Broadband
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OK, BT are telling everyone how good Broadband is but I can't come to the party.
They tell me it's not available in my area. FFS, I only live just outside High Wycombe (Hazlemere) but I'm too far from the exchange apparently. I registered my interest etc.
There is no cable on my street.
What else can I do to get a fatter pipe to the internet from home? How does ISDN work for a domestic customer?
Any suggestions? (no I won't move, I have only just paid B-liar 4% stamp duty thank you)
Thanks.
T/.
They tell me it's not available in my area. FFS, I only live just outside High Wycombe (Hazlemere) but I'm too far from the exchange apparently. I registered my interest etc.
There is no cable on my street.
What else can I do to get a fatter pipe to the internet from home? How does ISDN work for a domestic customer?
Any suggestions? (no I won't move, I have only just paid B-liar 4% stamp duty thank you)
Thanks.
T/.
Thats bad form on BT's behalf Trefor, my friends in between Wycombe and Beaconsfield (by the Harvester roundabout) got it fine when it first came out.
To answer one of your questions though:
ISDN comes into the home using standard CTP cable, you can get up to 128K on dual channel ISDN and I believe that the Home Highway is the cheapest way to get it, basically you pay a subscrption and I think all the traffic after that is free. You will need to get another phone line though if you want it always on as you cant piggyback ISDN like you can DSL.
Matt.
To answer one of your questions though:
ISDN comes into the home using standard CTP cable, you can get up to 128K on dual channel ISDN and I believe that the Home Highway is the cheapest way to get it, basically you pay a subscrption and I think all the traffic after that is free. You will need to get another phone line though if you want it always on as you cant piggyback ISDN like you can DSL.
Matt.
I'm in the same boat, living over 5.5kms from the exchange in Basinstoke 
Went for ISDN (Homer Highway) last year.. it's shit but at least it's (marginally) les shit than a regular phone line.. rental is £30pcm, add to that your anytime service at £14 and it's £44pcm... you'll be tied in for 12 months minimum.
Plotloss is partly incorrect on the satellite broadband thing - although there is a service (SkyTel?) which works like he says, where your upstream traffic goes thru a phone line (and that is total shit), BT's business satellite broadband is in fact a 2 way service. There is still significantly higher latency than with conventional ADSL, but your upload and download speeds are comparable to regular ADSL.
It's expensive, but needs must when the Devil vomits on your Eiderdown and all that...
I'm thinking of taking that route.
Went for ISDN (Homer Highway) last year.. it's shit but at least it's (marginally) les shit than a regular phone line.. rental is £30pcm, add to that your anytime service at £14 and it's £44pcm... you'll be tied in for 12 months minimum.
Plotloss is partly incorrect on the satellite broadband thing - although there is a service (SkyTel?) which works like he says, where your upstream traffic goes thru a phone line (and that is total shit), BT's business satellite broadband is in fact a 2 way service. There is still significantly higher latency than with conventional ADSL, but your upload and download speeds are comparable to regular ADSL.
It's expensive, but needs must when the Devil vomits on your Eiderdown and all that...
I'm thinking of taking that route.
I concur, forgot about the new BT thing, but isnt the hardware for that top top top money, like c£2K for the dish?
Edited to say for a single machine its £900 for the dish and £60 a month for 500 up and 200 down.
ISDN is better value over 12 months...
Matt.
>> Edited by plotloss on Thursday 19th September 15:40
Edited to say for a single machine its £900 for the dish and £60 a month for 500 up and 200 down.
ISDN is better value over 12 months...
Matt.
>> Edited by plotloss on Thursday 19th September 15:40
Thanks guys.
Flippin' eck. Maybe I'll just start a campaign to get cable down our street.
Get this: New housing estate by posho (in their opinion) Berkeley Homes. Every house has 2 cables sticking out the front for Cable TV/Telephone. However, Berkeley Homes have fallen out with all the cable suppliers so no cables exist under our brand new, nicely tarmacced street. Until Berkeley finish building on the site and leave, the cable companies can't 'come in'. Of course they will then dig up the nice smooth footpaths etc. Stupid to55ers at Berkeley Homes. I won't even get onto my snagging list
There is a rule in the deeds saying no satellite dishes to be erected. Yeah, like everyone has obeyed that one ... they had so many choices too
T/.
Flippin' eck. Maybe I'll just start a campaign to get cable down our street.
Get this: New housing estate by posho (in their opinion) Berkeley Homes. Every house has 2 cables sticking out the front for Cable TV/Telephone. However, Berkeley Homes have fallen out with all the cable suppliers so no cables exist under our brand new, nicely tarmacced street. Until Berkeley finish building on the site and leave, the cable companies can't 'come in'. Of course they will then dig up the nice smooth footpaths etc. Stupid to55ers at Berkeley Homes. I won't even get onto my snagging list
There is a rule in the deeds saying no satellite dishes to be erected. Yeah, like everyone has obeyed that one ... they had so many choices too
T/.
Quick question: ADSL IS broadband – yes?
Can't get it in here in PE6 but can at home in PE4 – though I've not it at home. Can hardly get the kids off the internet now, if we had broadband etc we never would.
My mate has just got broadband at home though NTL and says it's super quick. £15 pm apparently.
Can't get it in here in PE6 but can at home in PE4 – though I've not it at home. Can hardly get the kids off the internet now, if we had broadband etc we never would.
My mate has just got broadband at home though NTL and says it's super quick. £15 pm apparently.
Bloke I work with has the same issue as you. He lives in a small village in Cambridgeshire where ADSL is not installed.
He was told by BT that if the village could get enough people together to sign up for broadband, this would improve the chances of BT plumbing in the village so to speak.
Got to be worth a call to BT OpenWound to see how many subscribers they would require?
He was told by BT that if the village could get enough people together to sign up for broadband, this would improve the chances of BT plumbing in the village so to speak.
Got to be worth a call to BT OpenWound to see how many subscribers they would require?
nailit - the problem I have - as it seems does Trefor, is that we're connected to exchanges that are already enabled, but we're out of range for ADSL.
The case you cite ISTM refers to an area connected to an exhange that is not ADSL enabled yet.
The only hope for me is that they build another exchange nearer to me.. which being as we're on the edge of the ever expanding Basingstoke, will probably happen one day. The day I move elsewhere being the most likely one
The case you cite ISTM refers to an area connected to an exhange that is not ADSL enabled yet.
The only hope for me is that they build another exchange nearer to me.. which being as we're on the edge of the ever expanding Basingstoke, will probably happen one day. The day I move elsewhere being the most likely one
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