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petrolhead888

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262 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Hi Guys,

I used to race Gearbox karts etc but find the costs too much these days and a few years ago I started a Racing League on a Thursday Night using the PC Racing Sim Assetto Corsa.

Things have progressed really well and I now have a website which shows how to join etc and all Championships and points etc are on here.

Sim Racing is not for saddo`s with no life, It is a fantastic way to show off your race craft and teaches you car setup etc.

We race with pretty accurate rules etc so why not take a look and see what you think.

It might not be for everyone but I can promise you that it will be much better than you think.

One of the guys who races with us has never raced in real life but entered his first real race and came 2nd on his first race and won the second race!

www.renermotorsport.com

I can help you get set up, tell you what you need etc for anyone not sure how to get into it.

Believe me when I say that Sim Racing is becoming more and more relevant when you consider the costs of Motorsport.

Rene

Kraken

1,710 posts

206 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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You say it's not for saddos with no life but I used to race a lot on line trying out for the Play Station series etc. I stopped when I found out the guys with the top times were spending literally every waking hour perfecting setups and doing thousand and thousands of laps on the same circuits.

The difference between sim racing and real racing is it's the guys who have massive amounts of spare time who dominate rather than those with the money to spend. Either way the average joe isn't going to be at the sharp end.

petrolhead888

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262 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th October 2018
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Hi, Cheers for the reply,

Ours is setup so it doesnt work like that I promise.

The top drivers in the Championship have Ballast plus the physics are so much more accurate than consoles so the good drivers can make the difference by their driving.

The server is up 2 weeks before hand so drivers can see the times they are aiming at and sectors they are losing out on.

We have some great drivers and normally its pretty close no matter how many laps are done.

I normally do a few laps before on a Tuesday night to get a base setup and by practice session I am on the pace.

We run test sessions to get everyone up to speed, we are not interested in people running away with it, close racing is what we are after and we acheive it

We also have a rule that if someone asks you for a setup you have to give them it and we are all gentlemen.

Honestly try it it works for us

Edited by petrolhead888 on Saturday 6th October 20:49

ribiero

588 posts

172 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Kraken said:
You say it's not for saddos with no life but I used to race a lot on line trying out for the Play Station series etc. I stopped when I found out the guys with the top times were spending literally every waking hour perfecting setups and doing thousand and thousands of laps on the same circuits.

The difference between sim racing and real racing is it's the guys who have massive amounts of spare time who dominate rather than those with the money to spend. Either way the average joe isn't going to be at the sharp end.
You've hit the nail on the head. It's time+dedication based as opposed to money+dedication based to maximise what talent you have, simracing shows this. Thats like a lot of hobbies though to be fair.

Pro Simracing's showing this now that full time simracers are chasing around the games + platforms for every promoted/marketed event with a prize fund to earn a living. A lot of them are becoming "jack of all, master of none" because they have to adapt and cant maximise their potential through time, they have to rely on talent.



petrolhead888

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262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Like I said guys, it does not matter how much they practice, we run a Ballast and Intake restriction system so that the top guys have a disadvantage and this means that the racing is always pretty close and exciting.

We run Race strategy too so you have to think about your fuel and tyre usage and pit at the optimum time.

Of course for the novices we give them all the help they need to speed them along and give them setups etc.

The reason for my post was to maybe encourage people to join us and has some free competitive racing in a very friendly environment.

I understand that the prize money aspect will make people practice a million times over but we don`t do this we are simply after some brilliant racing that is clean and fair.

We also run a Track cut app that will give out penalties for track cuts so there is no cheating going on.

Rene

alfie2244

11,292 posts

194 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Looks like great fun I am sure.I could be wrong but I doubt the sensation beats to doing 120+mph with your backside 1/2" from the ground and no seat belt. Short or Long circuit OP?

Thurbs

2,781 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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I would be interested to see some videos of the racing, especially how clean it is...

Ash170990

178 posts

174 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Just signed up to your website. What sort of setups do you guys use? I have a logitec G29 wheel so maybe some fun over the winter if you have any races then haha

petrolhead888

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262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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alfie2244 said:
Looks like great fun I am sure.I could be wrong but I doubt the sensation beats to doing 120+mph with your backside 1/2" from the ground and no seat belt. Short or Long circuit OP?
Yes the real racing was brilliant, great fun and an adrenaline rush (short Circuit) The sim Racing honestly when you get into it is still a great rush as you are battling wheel to wheel and some of the stuff like the V8 Supercars Championship, we are doing Bathurst at minute and my god does it take some throttle control and skill.

Granted i`m a petrol head , I have a decent amount of drivers cars and classic cars and still like the real thing but honestly you are missing out if you think its much worse an experience.

Once you "get it" you dial into it then it becomes as real as you could imagine, when we are racing I don`t think about it not being real, its funny how the brain works, to us who do it every week its as real as it gets!

Of course this depends on what hardware you have, as with a crap steering wheel etc you don`t get the forces you should get.

There is more feedback from my wheel than a lot of real cars out there I can promise you!

One other point is that when racing for real you don`t drive at 100 percent unless you are rich for fear of damaging your car, in sim racing you can push to the limit thus bringing out the maximum of your skill level. The race craft we use during the races is outstanding and really makes you think and plan that pass.

It also makes you a better driver in real life, if you train your mind to look out for and spot the movement of the car through the wheel and visually, then when you get in a real car and introduce the inertia feel through the body, then you can spot and correct slides etc before they even happen!

I did a race online at Silverstone a few weeks before doing a real Trackday at Silverstone in an Elise 220 Cup and straight away I was taking perfect lines and it was as if I had been there for ages testing and the car sliding about was no issue at all, was easily corrected and brought back into line.

petrolhead888

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262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Ash170990 said:
Just signed up to your website. What sort of setups do you guys use? I have a logitec G29 wheel so maybe some fun over the winter if you have any races then haha
Yes brilliant, we race right up to the 20th December every Thursday.

I can help you set up that wheel so you get the best settings and most realistic feel.

We are doing a test session tonight (might be short notice) I can help you get all setup.

07841681276 is my number if anyone wants a hand getting set up.

Its really easy once you are setup, we have live timing too so you you can see what times we are getting.

petrolhead888

Original Poster:

262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Thurbs said:
I would be interested to see some videos of the racing, especially how clean it is...
I will have a look for a few videos buddy and post them

Rene

Ash170990

178 posts

174 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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petrolhead888 said:
Yes brilliant, we race right up to the 20th December every Thursday.

I can help you set up that wheel so you get the best settings and most realistic feel.

We are doing a test session tonight (might be short notice) I can help you get all setup.

07841681276 is my number if anyone wants a hand getting set up.

Its really easy once you are setup, we have live timing too so you you can see what times we are getting.
Would you be able to PM me some settings to get me pointing in the right direction, ive not played much AC usually play rfactor or Project cars. May not be able to get on tonight but can try and aim for a go next thursday. How many people do you usually get in a race? and is it an actual race or all lap time based?

petrolhead888

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262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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This is a Nascar 55 Championship Race we did a while back

We don`t have lots of videos as we have just really started to record them , but watch this race between me and Neil , wheel to wheel action it was epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9KeljS2DhM

These cars were hard to control, very sideways and handled like crap but great racing apart from the start when people were on cold tyres and track grip was quite low! there were are few incidents!

Generally its all very clean and if someone punts you then they have to serve a drive through penalty within 2 laps


petrolhead888

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262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Ash170990 said:
Would you be able to PM me some settings to get me pointing in the right direction, ive not played much AC usually play rfactor or Project cars. May not be able to get on tonight but can try and aim for a go next thursday. How many people do you usually get in a race? and is it an actual race or all lap time based?
There is quite a lot of little changes to make it feel like it should so it is something i`d have to explain and do for you buddy.

If you text me when your about I can help you no problem at all.

Its the details that make the difference, for those that use Logitech wheels there is a force feedback app that makes it so much better etc.

Then there is turning off help aids, graphics settings etc all that takes me 2 minutes but trying to explain in a message....

We usually get around 10-12 people at moment who are regulars enough to have great races, i`m aiming for around 20

We have about 25 drivers but not everyone races every week.

Our usual format is as follows but we do a full race meeting on a Thursday.

6.30pm Practice is open
8pm Qualifying for the race starts we do either 15 mins, 30 mins or a 1 lap shootout where you are under pressure to set a lap without running off track limits ....great fun!
8.30pm 1st race this can be from 15 mins to 45 mins depending on Series
then we either have another race if 45 mins or 2 more if 20 mins

We have a ten minute break between races depending on how we feel.

We use Discord and headsets to communicate and its all a good laugh again easy to setup I can do it for you!

Rene


Hoofy

77,398 posts

288 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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I'd be up for it although my PC is a bit old/slow. I'd race in bonnet cam mode as the windscreen filter slows down my PC!

One thing you could consider is doing what my tennis club do: Box leagues.
http://www.boxleagues.net/index.php?action=faq

petrolhead888

Original Poster:

262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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petrolhead888

Original Poster:

262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Hoofy said:
I'd be up for it although my PC is a bit old/slow. I'd race in bonnet cam mode as the windscreen filter slows down my PC!

One thing you could consider is doing what my tennis club do: Box leagues.
http://www.boxleagues.net/index.php?action=faq
Cheers for the reply,

To be fair Assetto Corsa is not that bad when it comes to PC Spec needs.

Yes looks interesting although its hard enough keeping track of all points as it is!

For 2019 we are introducing Team Mates which when you pair up with someone your team points count towards the Constructors Championship.

There will be 2 drivers in each Team so we match the slower drivers with the quickest ones for this.

Hoofy

77,398 posts

288 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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petrolhead888 said:
Hoofy said:
I'd be up for it although my PC is a bit old/slow. I'd race in bonnet cam mode as the windscreen filter slows down my PC!

One thing you could consider is doing what my tennis club do: Box leagues.
http://www.boxleagues.net/index.php?action=faq
Cheers for the reply,

To be fair Assetto Corsa is not that bad when it comes to PC Spec needs.

Yes looks interesting although its hard enough keeping track of all points as it is!

For 2019 we are introducing Team Mates which when you pair up with someone your team points count towards the Constructors Championship.

There will be 2 drivers in each Team so we match the slower drivers with the quickest ones for this.
Great. So I get that feeling that I've let someone down while racing and not just on court. wink

petrolhead888

Original Poster:

262 posts

213 months

Tuesday 9th October 2018
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Hoofy said:
Great. So I get that feeling that I've let someone down while racing and not just on court. wink
haha! Yes you can blame them for the bad/good result!

Ash170990

178 posts

174 months

Wednesday 10th October 2018
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Cheers for your help getting setup yesterday mate, managed to get a few laps in. Only 24 seconds off pole lol!

Will have to give this miss a race and try get some practice in for the next and see if im any closer.