Judo- what do I need to know?
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Why are u expecting to get into a full MMA fight in the streets or something? needing stand up and a ground game lol. Being able to punch is not the same as going to a boxing club 2-3 times per week and working on your speed and timing etc. Most fights you will ever end up in will be some drunk in a bar throwing windmills at you up close. 1 or 2 good punches on the jaw soon ends that.
Never did Judo but did a couple of years of Jujitsu and know a few judoka. Main advice I would give is to eat well and sleep well so you don't get sloppy during a class after work, it's like learning to dance whilst doing a cardio workout and being picked up and dropped on the floor.
You will be thrown to the floor *a lot* so really master breakfalling. My shoulder still irks me on occasion from where I would just get sloppy. Other than that, enjoy. It's a load of fun!
Re- the best martial art for self defence I'd say ignore them all and get really good at 1-500M sprints, nothing's going to beat a knife.
You will be thrown to the floor *a lot* so really master breakfalling. My shoulder still irks me on occasion from where I would just get sloppy. Other than that, enjoy. It's a load of fun!
Re- the best martial art for self defence I'd say ignore them all and get really good at 1-500M sprints, nothing's going to beat a knife.
glazbagun said:
Re- the best martial art for self defence I'd say ignore them all and get really good at 1-500M sprints, nothing's going to beat a knife.
Firstly, spotting/avoiding grief is the very best tactic, and failing that, being able to fend/push somebody off/wriggle out of a situation and running away -hence rugby being a good start.My son and I started karate as a hobby we could do together and progress at a similar pace. Most sports are very age group specific so karate appealed. We quite enjoy it but I’m convinced that you would need absolutely years of training for it to make you much tougher in a fight situation. Just enjoy the exercise and social aspect.
Jag_NE said:
My son and I started karate as a hobby we could do together and progress at a similar pace. Most sports are very age group specific so karate appealed. We quite enjoy it but I’m convinced that you would need absolutely years of training for it to make you much tougher in a fight situation. Just enjoy the exercise and social aspect.
I've always thought that about karate. Boxing & wrestling (and rugby) far more effective preparation for physical confrontations, I'd say.
MC Bodge said:
I've always thought that about karate.
Boxing & wrestling (and rugby) far more effective preparation for physical confrontations, I'd say.
You have obviously never tried kyokushin karate then that’s brutal and actually strengthens your limbs so your forearms and shins are like hitting someone with a led pipe. There used to be a tv show called fight quest where 2 guys one MMA fighter and one boxer travelled to different countries trying different martial arts for a few weeks and they said the Kyokushin karate in Japan was the hardest training out of them all. Boxing & wrestling (and rugby) far more effective preparation for physical confrontations, I'd say.
Like any form of contact sport it takes years of serious training to be able to knock your average joe clean out in a street fight without getting hurt. Especially martial arts that involve kicking it takes years to get enough flexibility and technique to knock someone out with a kick.
Just relax, I'm new to BJJ (or at least was 18 months ago) approaching 40. First few sessions I treated as a fight to the death, you soon learn that you'll gas out far, far less quickly if you relax and don't go mental.
Ignore everybody who'll tell you that X,Y or Z are far more useful 'on the streets' like you've seen above already - there's nowt wrong with doing something you find interesting that burns a few calories and lets you make a load of good new mates.
Ignore everybody who'll tell you that X,Y or Z are far more useful 'on the streets' like you've seen above already - there's nowt wrong with doing something you find interesting that burns a few calories and lets you make a load of good new mates.
Do enough of it and judo is excellent for teaching you balance on your feet, feel for your opponents balance and situational awareness on the ground. It's excellent for fitness - it was a regular thing where we were matched against lighter opponents and "winner stays on" or heavier opponents and "loser stays on", until that is you simply couldn't carry on! I'd highly recommend it, although be prepared to find injuries are easy to come by.
For groundwork and take downs, I'd also have a look at BJJ - not done myself, but it has a good reputation.
Aside from judo, my personal favourite is Kung Fu (I studied Wing Chun), the most absorbing martial art I've ever experienced. More for stand-up really, but fascinating to learn - it takes about 12 months just to get your head around the style of movement, many more years to obtain any sort of proficiency in it. Very flowing and balletic with exceptionally fast hand speed - watching a good practitioner is mesmerising!
For groundwork and take downs, I'd also have a look at BJJ - not done myself, but it has a good reputation.
Aside from judo, my personal favourite is Kung Fu (I studied Wing Chun), the most absorbing martial art I've ever experienced. More for stand-up really, but fascinating to learn - it takes about 12 months just to get your head around the style of movement, many more years to obtain any sort of proficiency in it. Very flowing and balletic with exceptionally fast hand speed - watching a good practitioner is mesmerising!
ST Ford said:
MC Bodge said:
I've always thought that about karate.
Boxing & wrestling (and rugby) far more effective preparation for physical confrontations, I'd say.
You have obviously never tried kyokushin karate then that’s brutal and actually strengthens your limbs so your forearms and shins are like hitting someone with a led pipe. There used to be a tv show called fight quest where 2 guys one MMA fighter and one boxer travelled to different countries trying different martial arts for a few weeks and they said the Kyokushin karate in Japan was the hardest training out of them all. Boxing & wrestling (and rugby) far more effective preparation for physical confrontations, I'd say.
Like any form of contact sport it takes years of serious training to be able to knock your average joe clean out in a street fight without getting hurt. Especially martial arts that involve kicking it takes years to get enough flexibility and technique to knock someone out with a kick.
Hard training at whatever style is hard training, and will probably knacker your body in later life if the training is brutal enough.
Anyway, it's a mindset. A skilled practitioner isn't necessarily streetwise or mad/psychotic enough to be a good brawler. And who really wants to be?
Good physical conditioning and ability to be useful is desirable and the actual fighting bit is just a part of it. Is spending years learning how to knock somebody out with a kick in the street actually a good use of time?
Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 15th September 16:53
ST Ford said:
What you need to know is it’s the most useless martial art in real world situations
Not sure I agree with this. I've found my Judo skills extremely useful as a form of self defence on many occasions in my younger days. In terms of attacking, no it's not the best but I'm a defender, not an attacker...;)MC Bodge said:
Is spending years learning how to knock somebody out with a kick in the street actually a good use of time?
You could quite easily apply the same test to football, cricket, golf, fishing, track days or any other number of pastimes. If you enjoy it, who cares? Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 15th September 16:53
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