Modding cars - how did it start then?

Modding cars - how did it start then?

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Bodo

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12,405 posts

272 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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Reading another MaxP thread, I wonder when and how modding cars started.

Was it in the early 70s, when manufactures started to do hot hatches like the BMW 2002 turbo?
It's been fitted with spoilers, wider wheels and body decals. So was the 911 Carrera RS 2.7 and some Opels and Ford Capri.
These Capri-style coupés were often retrofitted with some kind of rear window louvres, as originally seen on the Lamborghini Miura

IMHO in the early 80s, they started to tune up engines and add some elements like wheels, decals and chromed exhaust end pipes to the outside of the car, to distinguish it from standard cars

Later, I guess, people started to buy only the outside elements to look at least a bit more sporty

Anecdotes anyone?

plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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50's America almost certaintly I think.

Matt.

N17 TVR

2,937 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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I agree with 50's America.

Before Max Power that is for sure

135sport

442 posts

286 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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Mk1 Lotus Cortina (go faster stripe, wider wheels) came before the 2002 turbo.

Then people were putting the twink engine in an Anglia.

Mk1 Escort twin cam, and then the flood gates opened.

I'm sure there are others before the Tina, but I don't know them.

gsxrblue

211 posts

272 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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As soon as the Mini came out in 49 they started modding it

raceboy

13,259 posts

286 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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Maxy Power modifiying can be quite risky/expensive if you go to extremes, most modifications follow fashions, you try and sell a wide arched Festa now, after spending thousands on kit and wheels and manufactures can get it wrong by being late on the bandwagon, 3 spoke alloy wheels anyone?

Bodo

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12,405 posts

272 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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I agree with 50's America.

Before Max Power that is for sure



MG should have been one of the earliest then.

I think, they've modded cars before 1900; but today it's a consumer/society/individualisation (sp?) thingy isn't it?
Maybe the roots for that mysterium could be found in 60s touring car racing?

JSG

2,238 posts

289 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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People have been modding cars since day one. From fitting a pair of Nikes to the bloke with the flag it progressed to re-bodying cars like the Austin Seven to make a 'special' by junking the saloon body and replacing it with a handcrafted open body.

N17 TVR

2,937 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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I thought it started as a recognized form in the US of A in the 50's with 'hot rods' when people modified (engine, suspension, paintwork) old cars ?

Could be wrong, but cue John Travolta......"Go greased lightning etc"

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

282 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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I've got some bolt on goodies produced in the 1920's, sure they weren't the first. They include a nice cable operated bypass for the silencer and a universal air scoop to mount atop a downdraft carburettor.

(I didn't know BMW made a hot hatch 2002 Turbo Bodo, nor Gsxrblue a mini in 1949).

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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Danny Zuko started it when he built "Greased Lighting"!....." go greased lighting you're burning up the quarter mile......."

anonymous-user

60 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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*makes mental note to read replies before typing*

M@H

11,298 posts

278 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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They were happily doing Beetles in California in the 50's...

ajvmoore

170 posts

285 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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No no no no - long before that - I have driven a heavily modified model T ford, 1910, basic unit 3.0 litres developing 24 horsepower - add enlarged sidedraught carb, Frontenac cylinderhead, plus a diff with selectable gear ratios (basic T has only 2 gears, this gives it 4) etc etc(all contemporary upgrades of the time).means that there actually is a 0-60 time! (estimated about 34 horsepower!)..I guess that as long as there have been cars, there have been modifications!

Bodo

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12,405 posts

272 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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(I didn't know BMW made a hot hatch 2002 Turbo Bodo, nor Gsxrblue a mini in 1949).



You're right, gnomesmith, it's not exactly a hot hatch - it's more hot than hatch.



It features a lot of the elements, which are popular to fit to a dull shopping car.

Mark Benson

7,758 posts

275 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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The 750MC runs a class for modified Austin 7's

www.motorsnippets.com/750mc/racing/formulae/750_trophy.html

Basically, take an Austin 7 and make a racing car out of it, bearing in mind they could test on public roads, this must count as modifying.

ErnestM

11,621 posts

273 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't there always been "modification shops"? Wasn't Mulliner modding Bentleys back in the 40's? Anyone? (Before my time...)

ErnestM

yertis

18,565 posts

272 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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Also, lots of bolt-on-boy faves started out on "real" cars. Take the wide arches on quattros - pretty soon factories were putting flared arches on all sorts of lesser cars like the old M3 and Integrales, and then as surely as rust follows filler they started appearing on Golfs, Escorts and the other rubbish. No joke - a guy said to me the other day (of the quattro) "Nice body-kit, mate. Where d'ya get it?"

Basil Brush

5,205 posts

269 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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(I didn't know BMW made a hot hatch 2002 Turbo Bodo, nor Gsxrblue a mini in 1949).



You're right, gnomesmith, it's not exactly a hot hatch - it's more hot than hatch.



It features a lot of the elements, which are popular to fit to a dull shopping car.



I like the way the turbo graphics are in reverse so you can read them in your mirror and know to get out of the way. Wonder if this is where ambulances got the idea from?

williamp

19,510 posts

279 months

Wednesday 18th September 2002
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I always thought it was the vauxhall Nova...

...I guess I'm too young to remember anything else