Sweepstake: Guess the Labour majority
Sweepstake: Guess the Labour majority
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simpo two

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92,708 posts

294 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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I'm guessing a small swing to Conservative and a bigger one to the LibDems, so...

Labour majority: 75

JagLover

46,743 posts

264 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Sounds about right.

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Sit on fence and agree maybe a little more, 80-100

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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www.bbc.co.uk/weather/


not great weather today so labour could be in a bit more trouble.

i think the last week has done alot of damage to labour so i'm thinking majority of maybe 40.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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hoping for 3 but will go for an optimistic 25

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

297 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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The last poll for voters guaranteed to vote showed a two point lead for the Conservatives!

Polls are a total waste of space - other than as a means of depressing opposing voters.

I do think Labour will win, although not with anything like a 75 seat majority, and I honestly believe there remains an outside chance of a hung parliament.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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The Guardian reckon its going to be in excess of 130.

I see their usual aversion to facts is still going strong...

M@H

11,298 posts

301 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Hmmm..

60 ..or thereabouts.

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Umm .. surely talk of a minimal Labour majority is optimistic at best?

Unless I've missed something, the majority of recent polls have gone between 35%-40% for Labour and 30-35% for the Tories.

Even the most optimistic poll would still mean a 100+ majority for Labour.




Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Yes but Polls (apart from the actual one) are about as reliable as an early 80's Yugo.

ian d

986 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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i have often wondered about polls, how do they do it? do they stand on a street corner of some urban city and ask the shoppers, those not working that day and the others who gander past...are you going to vote?, er, yes/no/##off. who are you going to vote for?...er, lab/lib/tory/nationalist/###off.

how reliable can they be?...depends on:
which urban jungle, which street corner, which bod is questioned as they merrily saunter past, carrying shopping, pushing pram, eating lunch sarnie, etc.

or is it a little more scientific?...we'll ask 100 railwaymen....answer 100 labour votes (that may not be true, only a very generalisation), ask 100 of the WI (womans institute, tony's favourite audiance) not many labour votes there.
only one poll matters and its today.

wanty1974

3,704 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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...and they always overestimate the labour lead by between 3 and 7% points... (historic fact, folks!)

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Don't forget Labour can still win with a smaller share of the vote than the Tories..

I agree on opinion polls but even adjusting these compared to the last two election results indicates a Labour majority of 80-100 .. I put more faith in the bookies, they have more to lose if they get it wrong!

We shall see.

JagLover

46,743 posts

264 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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ian d said:
i have often wondered about polls, how do they do it? do they stand on a street corner of some urban city and ask the shoppers, those not working that day and the others who gander past...are you going to vote?, er, yes/no/##off. who are you going to vote for?...er, lab/lib/tory/nationalist/###off.

how reliable can they be?...depends on:
which urban jungle, which street corner, which bod is questioned as they merrily saunter past, carrying shopping, pushing pram, eating lunch sarnie, etc.

or is it a little more scientific?...we'll ask 100 railwaymen....answer 100 labour votes (that may not be true, only a very generalisation), ask 100 of the WI (womans institute, tony's favourite audiance) not many labour votes there.
only one poll matters and its today.


For a serious poll they take a poll then adjust the results to reflect a British society.

Some pollsters also adjust for Labour bias (people not wanting to admit they vote Tory)

Personally I feel the polls have slightly overstated Labours support, and understated Tory-but given the structure of the electoral system, even a near dead heat would result in a clear Labour majority.

puggit

49,790 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Mon Ami Mate said:
The last poll for voters guaranteed to vote showed a two point lead for the Conservatives!

Polls are a total waste of space - other than as a means of depressing opposing voters.

I do think Labour will win, although not with anything like a 75 seat majority, and I honestly believe there remains an outside chance of a hung parliament.
Seconded!

Vee-X

3,318 posts

286 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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Mon Ami Mate said:
The last poll for voters guaranteed to vote showed a two point lead for the Conservatives!

Polls are a total waste of space - other than as a means of depressing opposing voters.

I do think Labour will win, although not with anything like a 75 seat majority, and I honestly believe there remains an outside chance of a hung parliament.


would be great to hang the parliament, nice high short amount of rope, let them dance on air.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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68

You heard it here first.

simpo two

Original Poster:

92,708 posts

294 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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john_p said:
Don't forget Labour can still win with a smaller share of the vote than the Tories...

How's that happening? Are they re-locating chavs and imported residents into marginal seats?

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

297 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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simpo two said:

john_p said:
Don't forget Labour can still win with a smaller share of the vote than the Tories...


How's that happening? Are they re-locating chavs and imported residents into marginal seats?


No, they've just moved the boundaries around. Average number of votes to install a Labour MP = 16,000. Average number of votes to install a Conservative MP = 22,000.

Mugabe would be proud...

_VTEC_

2,458 posts

274 months

Thursday 5th May 2005
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I know Labour will get in but I really don't want them to. I think it's time for some change.