Sweepstake: Guess the Labour majority
Discussion
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not great weather today so labour could be in a bit more trouble.
i think the last week has done alot of damage to labour so i'm thinking majority of maybe 40.
not great weather today so labour could be in a bit more trouble.
i think the last week has done alot of damage to labour so i'm thinking majority of maybe 40.
The last poll for voters guaranteed to vote showed a two point lead for the Conservatives!
Polls are a total waste of space - other than as a means of depressing opposing voters.
I do think Labour will win, although not with anything like a 75 seat majority, and I honestly believe there remains an outside chance of a hung parliament.
Polls are a total waste of space - other than as a means of depressing opposing voters.
I do think Labour will win, although not with anything like a 75 seat majority, and I honestly believe there remains an outside chance of a hung parliament.
i have often wondered about polls, how do they do it? do they stand on a street corner of some urban city and ask the shoppers, those not working that day and the others who gander past...are you going to vote?, er, yes/no/##off. who are you going to vote for?...er, lab/lib/tory/nationalist/###off.
how reliable can they be?...depends on:
which urban jungle, which street corner, which bod is questioned as they merrily saunter past, carrying shopping, pushing pram, eating lunch sarnie, etc.
or is it a little more scientific?...we'll ask 100 railwaymen....answer 100 labour votes (that may not be true, only a very generalisation), ask 100 of the WI (womans institute, tony's favourite audiance) not many labour votes there.
only one poll matters and its today.
how reliable can they be?...depends on:
which urban jungle, which street corner, which bod is questioned as they merrily saunter past, carrying shopping, pushing pram, eating lunch sarnie, etc.
or is it a little more scientific?...we'll ask 100 railwaymen....answer 100 labour votes (that may not be true, only a very generalisation), ask 100 of the WI (womans institute, tony's favourite audiance) not many labour votes there.
only one poll matters and its today.
Don't forget Labour can still win with a smaller share of the vote than the Tories..
I agree on opinion polls but even adjusting these compared to the last two election results indicates a Labour majority of 80-100 .. I put more faith in the bookies, they have more to lose if they get it wrong!
We shall see.
I agree on opinion polls but even adjusting these compared to the last two election results indicates a Labour majority of 80-100 .. I put more faith in the bookies, they have more to lose if they get it wrong!
We shall see.
ian d said:
i have often wondered about polls, how do they do it? do they stand on a street corner of some urban city and ask the shoppers, those not working that day and the others who gander past...are you going to vote?, er, yes/no/##off. who are you going to vote for?...er, lab/lib/tory/nationalist/###off.
how reliable can they be?...depends on:
which urban jungle, which street corner, which bod is questioned as they merrily saunter past, carrying shopping, pushing pram, eating lunch sarnie, etc.
or is it a little more scientific?...we'll ask 100 railwaymen....answer 100 labour votes (that may not be true, only a very generalisation), ask 100 of the WI (womans institute, tony's favourite audiance) not many labour votes there.
only one poll matters and its today.
For a serious poll they take a poll then adjust the results to reflect a British society.
Some pollsters also adjust for Labour bias (people not wanting to admit they vote Tory)
Personally I feel the polls have slightly overstated Labours support, and understated Tory-but given the structure of the electoral system, even a near dead heat would result in a clear Labour majority.
Mon Ami Mate said:Seconded!
The last poll for voters guaranteed to vote showed a two point lead for the Conservatives!
Polls are a total waste of space - other than as a means of depressing opposing voters.
I do think Labour will win, although not with anything like a 75 seat majority, and I honestly believe there remains an outside chance of a hung parliament.
Mon Ami Mate said:
The last poll for voters guaranteed to vote showed a two point lead for the Conservatives!
Polls are a total waste of space - other than as a means of depressing opposing voters.
I do think Labour will win, although not with anything like a 75 seat majority, and I honestly believe there remains an outside chance of a hung parliament.
would be great to hang the parliament, nice high short amount of rope, let them dance on air.

simpo two said:
john_p said:
Don't forget Labour can still win with a smaller share of the vote than the Tories...
How's that happening? Are they re-locating chavs and imported residents into marginal seats?
No, they've just moved the boundaries around. Average number of votes to install a Labour MP = 16,000. Average number of votes to install a Conservative MP = 22,000.
Mugabe would be proud...
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maybe a little more, 80-100